The Redhawk is back on Ruger's website
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mohavesam
Hawkeye
Wow. The scope-ready model finally lists above $1K ! - and there is NO mention of Ruger scope rings being included at that price ???
And the rest of them are all $999 MSRP. What are the improvements? Same ol' Redhawk?
And the rest of them are all $999 MSRP. What are the improvements? Same ol' Redhawk?
black029
Single-Sixer
Other than laser etchings, one of which is on the bottom of the barrel forward of the ejector, instead of huge roll markings, I'm saying it's the same ol" Redhawk. I'll know in about 6 days.
Bobthegod
Bearcat
Well, that's nice to see that it's back. Prices are a little high but I'm sure you'll see it drop once they get into the stores.
I already have a 44 magnum 5".
I think I'm going wait and see if the .357 and .41 magnum come out.
Those are the ones I'm interested in.
I already have a 44 magnum 5".
I think I'm going wait and see if the .357 and .41 magnum come out.
Those are the ones I'm interested in.
mohavesam
Hawkeye
That's new, wasnt there this am. And they look like offset rings if the photo has any accuracy?
black029
Single-Sixer
They might sell some 8 shot .357's, if they kept the barrel to 4 or 5 inches. Or even less. Otherwise it's " been there, done that, and it weighed 60 ounces"
drastic_quench
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This man speaks the truth. Unfortunately the stock answer from Ruger is "we make six shooters.". Which of course ignores the SP101, Single Nine, Single Ten, et al.black029 said:
I think Ruger could beat out S&W in that marketplace.
black029
Single-Sixer
I don't think you could safely do 8 in a GP100. But I'm wondering if 9 (we're talking .357 here, as a reminder) would fit in a Redhawk. Seems to me that the Ruger cylinder has a greater diameter than a 29/629, but wouldn't bet a sugar cookie on it.
Anyone have both, to compare?
Anyone have both, to compare?
David Bradshaw
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black029.... you may safely bet every sugar cookie ever made the Redhawk cylinder has greater diameter than that of the S&W M-29/629. While diameter of Bill Ruger's Super Blackhawk is similar to the M-29, the Ruger represents vastly greater durability under sustained magnum fire. While I would rate the cylinders close in strength, as in pretty damn strong, the fact of SBH durability proceeds from the "solid" single action cylinder frame, with greater mass in lockwork.
When Ruger set out to make a double action .44 Magnum, he at once set to eliminate the traditional DA sideplate and increase mass. To increase diameter of barrel socket in frame he offset the ejector rod below the axis of the cylinder. The cylinder latch (cylinder stop) was made heavier, stronger, and able to time with a heavier spring. These are a couple of details which make the Redhawk and its offspring Super Redhawk far stronger under heavy loads than the S&W.
The Dan Wesson Arms Model 44 (.44 Mag) also takes advantage of the solid frame DA concept.
A proper S&W M-29 or M-629 is a thing of beauty, accuracy and long service life. Just don't let it feed at the same trough as a Redhawk or Super Redhawk.
David Bradshaw
When Ruger set out to make a double action .44 Magnum, he at once set to eliminate the traditional DA sideplate and increase mass. To increase diameter of barrel socket in frame he offset the ejector rod below the axis of the cylinder. The cylinder latch (cylinder stop) was made heavier, stronger, and able to time with a heavier spring. These are a couple of details which make the Redhawk and its offspring Super Redhawk far stronger under heavy loads than the S&W.
The Dan Wesson Arms Model 44 (.44 Mag) also takes advantage of the solid frame DA concept.
A proper S&W M-29 or M-629 is a thing of beauty, accuracy and long service life. Just don't let it feed at the same trough as a Redhawk or Super Redhawk.
David Bradshaw
black029
Single-Sixer
Mr. Bradshaw, thanks for the insightful response. Much appreciated.
With Ruger seemingly coming out with a RB sub 3" Redhawk in .44, maybe an 8 or 9 shot version in .357 could follow. They have presented worse iterations to the shooting public.
With Ruger seemingly coming out with a RB sub 3" Redhawk in .44, maybe an 8 or 9 shot version in .357 could follow. They have presented worse iterations to the shooting public.
David Bradshaw
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black029.... the larger-than-Blackhawk-and-M29 diameter of the Redhawk/SRH cylinder, with consequent greater chamber wall thickness, certainly would accommodate more than six chambers in .357. However overkill the 6-shot Redhawk .357 may be for strength, it certainly allows for Freedom Arms/Redhawk ONLY loads.
An 8-shot .357 Redhawk might be of some utility down the road. Were Ruger to reintroduce the .357 Redhawk, I'd prefer it a 6-shot for its unique strength----and the fact I have no history of exhausting a cylinder full of .357's, nor .44's, nor .45's, nor .454's while hunting.
A light cylinder starts & stops rotation fast. Thus, the flywheel effect of a heavy cylinder retards double action speed. Mass of the Redhawk make it more of a work gun than a game gun.
David Bradshaw
An 8-shot .357 Redhawk might be of some utility down the road. Were Ruger to reintroduce the .357 Redhawk, I'd prefer it a 6-shot for its unique strength----and the fact I have no history of exhausting a cylinder full of .357's, nor .44's, nor .45's, nor .454's while hunting.
A light cylinder starts & stops rotation fast. Thus, the flywheel effect of a heavy cylinder retards double action speed. Mass of the Redhawk make it more of a work gun than a game gun.
David Bradshaw
eveled
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I was looking for a .357 Redhawk, and lusting for an eight shot one. I got tired of waiting and bought a S&W 627 (40oz), liked it so much I bought a 327 light weight snub nose, (24oz).
Both these guns have amazing double action triggers. As much as I love my Rugers, I'm not sure a .357 Redhawk has much of a market anymore, especially if it weighs 60oz.
In theory if the .357 Redhawk was a good seller, they would not have stopped making it.
With all that said, if they do come out with a .357 Redhawk, I'd probably buy one.
. Especially a if it was a snub nose, Ed
Both these guns have amazing double action triggers. As much as I love my Rugers, I'm not sure a .357 Redhawk has much of a market anymore, especially if it weighs 60oz.
In theory if the .357 Redhawk was a good seller, they would not have stopped making it.
With all that said, if they do come out with a .357 Redhawk, I'd probably buy one.
. Especially a if it was a snub nose, Eddownzero
Bearcat
I hope this means I can get a new .45 Colt Redhawk soon, instead of having to settle for an overpriced used one.
jrod
Bearcat
I'm glad to see that they're finally back! Now to order a 4"!
downzero
Bearcat
jrod said:I'm glad to see that they're finally back! Now to order a 4"!
Don't take all the .45 Colts!
I bought one of the Toklats. Got a good price and like it so far. A nice balance between the 2.5" Alaskan and the 7.5" Super Redhawk. I am a little surprised the 4.2" Redhawks have not been immediately bought up. Maybe the long drought is over now and their supply will be abundant. Maybe the market is just soft. Time will tell.
