the new M1 garand

[bobski]

hmmmm.
https://thecmp.org/introducing-the-m1-garand-by-cmp-a-new-chapter-begins/

 

[GunnyGene]

hmmmm.
https://thecmp.org/introducing-the-m1-garand-by-cmp-a-new-chapter-begins/

$2000. Hmmmm, indeed. Pass.

 

[Yaworski]

$2000. Hmmmm, indeed. Pass.

I paid about $200 for mine back in the days of DCM.

 

[bobski]

2 grand isnt that bad. an M1A goes for about the same.

 

[eveled]

The only advantage a Garand has over an M1A is history. The new Garands have no history.

My money will go towards more M1A’s.

 

[XUSNORDIE]

The only advantage a Garand has over an M1A is history. The new Garands have no history.

My money will go towards more M1A's.

Just curious and maybe I'm missing something....a lot of Garands have history and you wish they could talk and tell their stories.......but, what history do M1A's carry? All mine could say are being built with cheap overseas parts that were replaced with mostly USGI parts to replicate the M14s and M21 DMR/PSRs I played with in the Navy.....maybe M1A's could have some LE history, but nothing compared to the Garand or M14...the new Garand to me has no more "history" than a new M1A.....just my narrow minded opinion.

 

[G2]

I think they will sell a few here and there…

But I spent my money on a Shuff Mini-G. It was ~2k but what a pleasure to shoot. I also had it done in 308.

 

[eveled]

Just curious and maybe I'm missing something....a lot of Garands have history and you wish they could talk and tell their stories.......but, what history do M1A's carry? All mine could say are being built with cheap overseas parts that were replaced with mostly USGI parts to replicate the M14s and M21 DMR/PSRs I played with in the Navy.....maybe M1A's could have some LE history, but nothing compared to the Garand or M14...the new a new Garand to me has no more "history" than a new M1A.....just my narrow minded opinion.

I didn't mean m1A's had history, they definitely do not.

I was saying the only reason I'd buy a Garand was because of it's historical value.

If I'm buying a new battle rifle with no historical value, I want one with a removable magazine.

I just can't see buying a reproduction Garand, but if I did it would be chambered in .308,

Likely I am the one who is missing something. But that is my opinion.

 

[XUSNORDIE]

I just can't see buying a reproduction Garand

But the M1A is just a remanufactured M14......

But that is my opinion.

And you are entitled to have one Sir.

 

[eveled]

But the M1A is just a remanufactured M14......

I believe the M14 was better than the Garand. Because of it having removable magazines and being chambered in .308.

I didn't buy my M1A's for historical value, they are working guns. If the SHTF, I don't want to be limited to stripper clips.

I see no reason to buy a reproduction Garand. What am I missing? Is there really a market for these new rifles?

 

[Cofaler]

I've owned many Garands over the years, all purchased through the CMP. I'm down to two, both WWII Springfields. I just had one rebarreled in .308. A few years ago a guy I worked with said he wanted one so I explained the CMP to him and told him if he got one I would too. I sent in my sticky requesting the earliest gun they had on hand in GI walnut, that is all I cared about. It would be my last CMP M1 purchase. They sent me a 5.9 mil Springfield in a CMP stock. I sold it to a friend.

I'm still sort of looking for an older WWII gun, not sure why because I have two really nice ones. I used Shuff many years ago on my two BM-59, BM-59E builds, both came out really nice. I love the platform and have a Poly-Tech M14 clone, but that is as close as I've come so far to an M1a. I agree with what has been said above, the history and the cool factor is important to me in most things, I personally have better things to spend 2k on than a newly manufactured M1. That said, I'm glad they are doing it, and I hope they sell a million of them. I'm sure there will be people out there who will want them.

 

[peachhead]

I have a Garand, and it doesn't get shot as much as it should because I am paranoid about what I shoot in it. I need to get over it and shoot it.

I don't doubt these new ones will sell. I would just rather put the money into something else, like maybe a #1.

 

[Actnbill]

I have a few CMP Garands and a Springfield M1a.....which are fine.....but my Favorite is an IHC Garand that I built up from a stripped receiver and added a heavy Krieger barrel and new stock......I made my own history with my IHC and compared to the others.... is tack driver.....

 

[eveled]

I have a Garand, and it doesn't get shot as much as it should because I am paranoid about what I shoot in it. I need to get over it and shoot it.

I don't doubt these new ones will sell. I would just rather put the money into something else, like maybe a #1.

Funny you mentioned a No1! There is a #1 in 30-06 at my LGS, calling my name. Sigh…..

 

[maduecehb]

I've owned many Garands over the years, all purchased through the CMP. I'm down to two, both WWII Springfields. I just had one rebarreled in .308. A few years ago a guy I worked with said he wanted one so I explained the CMP to him and told him if he got one I would too. I sent in my sticky requesting the earliest gun they had on hand in GI walnut, that is all I cared about. It would be my last CMP M1 purchase. They sent me a 5.9 mil Springfield in a CMP stock. I sold it to a friend.

I'm still sort of looking for an older WWII gun, not sure why because I have two really nice ones.

I have a Springfield M1 Garand (pre war) xxxxx serial number been there and done it. Not pretty but shoots fine Interested?

 

[Mobuck]

I carried an accurized M-14 and liked it at the time. No experience with Garand so can't really compare but the removable box mag of the M-14 was monumentally better than the en-bloc mag of the Garand.

 

[kmoore]

The M1 Grand was a marvel of a rifle when built and put into combat. I never carried one in combat or marching with one on my shoulder. It's a complex firing action and many years outdated. Way back when, I starting shooting HP competition with NM M-14s. I was issued 2 over the years. I did buy an M1 for 79 bucks. Spend a pile of money having it upgraded to a NM M1. I shot it in a few matches. The M14 was light years ahead as a match rifle. Later when the AR-15 was upgraded and allowed to be used as a service rifle in HP matches it replaced the M14 as it is a much better rifle for that, (the DCM AR-15 version that is).
That old M1 Grand made in the 40s sat unfired in my gun safe for decades. When I sold it in 2012 I made a pile of money. It was fun to hold it and think about the M1 really helped win a world war. But it's too damn big, heavy and outdated as a rifle to go out and shoot when I have many rifles that will outshoot it's accuracy also much easier to tear down and clean. Man do they have a lot of moving parts.
I am not a firearms collector to just buy a gun to say I have one. But if others want an M1, that's ok with me. I hope the new company sells many thousands. I won't be on the list to buy one.

 

[Yaworski]

For the record, the M1 has about 80 parts and an AR15 has about 150.

 

[bobski]

the m14 was an improvement over the plagued M1 op rod bending. the shorter op rod had less issues. the fiberglass stocks corrected the stock warping issue on both M1 and early m14's too.
as far as history, the 14 was the 1st full auto battle rifle issued to troops.

 

[XUSNORDIE]

the 14 was the 1st full auto battle rifle issued to troops.

But much more useful as a semi.....and specifically in designated applications

 

[kmoore]

For the record, the M1 has about 80 parts and an AR15 has about 150.

The number on an M1 when I asked google was 100 to 150. AR15 was listed as 65 to 100. I suspect it depends on the model of either whatever the exact number will be. Some parts group might be listed as 1 part, but contain many more subparts.

 

[Yaworski]

The number on an M1 when I asked google was 100 to 150. AR15 was listed as 65 to 100.

Interesting. I got my numbers from Google as well.

 

[old breed]

we all have many reasons for buying a weapon.shooting a historic type weapon is not only fun but gives us a historical experience . hunting with a side lock muzzleloader in a rain or snow storm not easy but enlightening. the garands and m1-a's pretty much safe queens. another reason to buy is to have a weapon that belonged to a friend or relative. everytime you warm it up ,it brings back great memories. everytime i say enough some new weapon comes along. i spend most of my time with new. maybe someday a grandchild or a friend will shoot my old or new gun and there will be memories and aren't memories history?

 

[Actnbill]

Remember..... AR-15's weigh as much as 10 moving boxes and shoot 50 cal bullets

( courtesy of Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee )

 

[old breed]

Remember..... AR-15's weigh as much as 10 moving boxes and shoot 50 cal bullets

( courtesy of Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee )

i try not to speak ill of the dead. i fear GOD more than man. some republicans and most democrats don't . they believe lies and distort the very constitution they swore to protect. they would subvert and destroy this country with the hate of president trump as their justification. if karl marx is their god they have a rude awakening.

 

[RC44Mag]

I bought an M1A because I couldn’t buy a 14. I could buy a Garand so about 6-7 years ago I bought two from CMP, theyre the Expert versions with new wood and barrels. All the rest of parts are GI. Paid 1050 each as I recall, one in 06 and the other in .308 mainly because I have a bunch of .308 for the M1A and just to mix it up. My wish list sent to CMP was both Springfield and both WWII numbers, pleasantly surprised got what I wanted on both.
I wouldn’t buy one the new versions especially at that price. Being a history buff and all it has no appeal to me. They will find buyers I’m sure.