Strength of Uberti revovlers

[Critch]

I have a Uberti revolver in 45 Colt. Nice gun, good trigger, handles super well...Everytime I look at reloading data they of course point out that some loads should only be used in Ruger and a few other guns....my question is: Practically speaking, just how strong or weak is the Uberti 45 LC vs. the New Model Vaquero?

I stay well within the ranges for the Uberti, but I sometimes hear people talking I'm shooting a potential hand grenade.

I have a Ruger Blackhawk in 41 Magnum, so I'm familiar with Ruger revolvers.

 

[WIL TERRY]

I have nearly 50M rounds through Uberti SA pistols without a problem. The Cimarron 4 3/4" SA 45 has nearly 7M rounds through it, ALL being 250gr LFN bullets at 1000fps. The Uberti pistols are the equal of any of the COLT SAA pistols and ANY of the Ruger ' small ' frame SA centerfire pistols. Hellesbelles, jim Taylor shot thousands of 300gr bullets at 1100 from an early Dakota with nary a problem.
The European proof standards by CIP are higher than our SAAMI proof specifications. The belittelers of the Uberti/ASM/ETC Sa sixguns know damn little about that which they whine.
And so it goes...

 

[Kevin]

Will, does the M stand for million? Am I readingcorrectly that you have a revolver with 7 million rounds through it?

 

[graygun]

Will, does the M stand for million? Am I readingcorrectly that you have a revolver with 7 million rounds through it?

I was wondering the same thing.

 

[SAJohn]

In Roman numbers the M stands for 1,000. In the metric system K = 1,000.

 

[6gun]

My kid bought a Uberti S/A 357mag. cattleman 4 3/4" barrel, pretty blue job on the gun with fake Color case hardening on the receiver like Ruger was using, took it to the range and the first thing it did was launch the ejection tube and rod halfway across the range :lol: all the screws keep falling out even with Loctite, the trigger feels good if you can keep it screwed in and keep the loading gate closed when that screw loosens up long enough to shoot it, nope I'm not impressed I told him to buy a Ruger but he wouldn't listen.

 

[Jim Puke]

The Uberti's are strong enough for most anything most folks will do with them. Some people think that" Ruger only" loads are the only loads that will take animals...and it just ain't so...44 and 45 revolvers were taking big game decades before there was any such thing as "Ruger only" loads.

I like my Rugers...but I LOVE my Uberti's.

 

[George Tucker]

+1 what Jim says.

 

[DeletedMember275]

My kid bought a Uberti S/A 357mag. cattleman 4 3/4" barrel, pretty blue job on the gun with fake Color case hardening on the receiver like Ruger was using, took it to the range and the first thing it did was launch the ejection tube and rod halfway across the range :lol: all the screws keep falling out even with Loctite, the trigger feels good if you can keep it screwed in and keep the loading gate closed when that screw loosens up long enough to shoot it, nope I'm not impressed I told him to buy a Ruger but he wouldn't listen.

My then-new Ruger Blackhawk .41 Mag launched the entire ejector rod assembly after the third (3rd) round of factory ammo, so I guess all Rugers must be junk, eh? :wink:

 

[stevemb]

50M, 7M, um, translation please. After LAH's great thread, putting round counts into perspective, enquiring minds wanna know. Gotta believe that most will see that "M" and think millions.

 

[WIL TERRY]

WHERE did you men go to school ? M is one thousand in the latin language and has been for four thousand years[4M!] ALL scientific work is named in the latin language and numbered in the latin language"IE: ursus horribilus is fun to hunt, but Canis Latrans are a damnsite easier to find in numbers over M....
K is from the one thousand "meters" in a KILL-O-METER... [ not KLOMUDER.]
And so it goes...
I'm glad we went to high school when we did as we got a REAL edjewmakashun including four years of math and English, two years of latin, two years of a foreign language, four years of history, four years of social studies, two years of law classes including business, four years of music, and THIS was from a public high school in NW ohio.

 

[stevemb]

How does www.rugerforum.com, translate into latin ? Any other threads here in latin ? Whats the latin name for Ruger flat top .44 special ? Conclusions can be drawn. Think I'll go walk the dog now.

 

[Kevin]

I guess I went to a different school here is the first listing on Google;

In metric, you'd use M (mega) for million, G (giga) for billion and T (tera) for trillion. The only financial specific similar abbreviation I can find is MM for million (financial notation, according to wikipedia).

As you can see it lists M for million. I further found M can be MASS... (physics).... not sure if you were trying to be obtuse on purpose...correct or not...as I don't see the rest of your post in latin.

 

[stevemb]

What I'll not argue, I do not have an Uberti, and Wil's info on such is golden.

 

[m657]

Back to 'strength of Uberti revolvers' of OP:

my own precious 45 SAA clone has perhaps 20,000 moderate cowboy loads through it, No signs of wear or imminent failure.

And I too have had a (close to new) Ruger Vaquero launch ejector rod parts into No Mans Land. That in itself taught me to not overlook checking tightness of the screw on other pistols or they too would have been similarly distressed.

 

[Rick Courtright]

WHERE did you men go to school ? M is one thousand in the latin language and has been for four thousand years[MMMM anni!]

Hi,

Please pardon the edit, Wil... it was just too hard to resist! Say it fast three times... ;)

M as in "mille?" Which we use today as "mile" from the distance the average Roman soldier covered in 1000 double steps.

Don't remember where I picked it up, but the convention I was taught had the "m" used as lower case, as in 10m being 10,000. Maybe just a preference thing, since I believe it took a while for the Romans to develop lower case. It seems people understand "k" better these days to mean the same thing, but that doesn't invalidate the knowledge of those who were taught more! There's plenty of odd usage with that "k", too: for example, how many have watched or participated in a 10K run? What's that? 10,000 "Kelvins", maybe? Since they mean kilometers, or kilometres if one wishes, I was taught it should be annotated as a 10km. Heavens... we've gotten lazy!

Whatever, it gives folks something to argue about!

Rick C

 

[Critch]

Yes "m" was a thousand, "mm" was a million, it's how I was taught also.

 

[Bob Wright]

Yes "m" was a thousand, "mm" was a million, it's how I was taught also.

Sorry, mm, or MM, is 2,000. This year is MMXV, for 2015.

Good lesson in Roman numerals is to watch the older movies, where the date is always given in Roman numerals.

Bob Wright

 

[GA Cracker]

I would like to hear more about the strength of the Uberti revolver as originally posted. I knew what WIL meant as we had to study Roman Numerals in school. I bought a Bisley 45 Cimarron Uberti a few months ago because I figured that was the closest I could afford to the original Colt Bisley. I haven't shot it much at all but so far I like it A LOT! POA was dead on. Any more info posted would be nice.

 

[Bob Wright]

Here is my experience with Uberti revolvers:

My first Uberti was a .44 Magnum Cattleman, imported by Iver Johnson, bought in 1975. Beautiful gun, well fitted and finished. Lacked a hardened firing pin bushing, and front sight waaaaay too short. The frame cratered up in firing, causing the cylinder to bind. I stoned down the little crater and had no more trouble. Tough about having new sights installed, but sold the gun instead. The buyer found it shot dead on with him, using .44 Specials.

About three years ago I acquired three Ubertis, a .22 R.F. Stallion; a Flat Top 4 3/4" barrel in .45 Colt; and a Cimarron .44 Special 4 3/4" barrel. All three of these have performed flawlessly. I don't use fire-breathing handloads in these (certainly not in the .22 R.F.!) but they will handle anything a Colt SAA will handle, including some stout handloads.

I don't buy a fixed sighted Single Action for serious hunting and/or long range shooting, preferring a Ruger Blackhawk/Super Blackhawk for that. But there is no worry in these Ubertis. Having no experience with the newer Piettas, I can't attest to them. But I see no reason to think they might be anything lesss than a Uberti.

Bob Wright

 

[Bob Wright]

And as to Roman numerals, the largest number that can be written in classic Roman numerals, is 3,999, as "MMMCMXCIX."

Incidentally, Pat Sajack, on Wheel of Fortune recently commented on the fact that many clocks show 4:00 o'clock as "IIII" which is incorrect, as four is IV. Clock makers have begun using this as they claim the clock face looks more balanced.

The Army's Fourth Infantry Division patch is four sprigs of ivy.

When is four half of five? When its IV.

Bob Wright

 

[Critch]

Like I said, I shoot well within the limits set for 45 Colt for non-Ruger firearms, and I don't shoot a bunch of hot loads in my 3-screw .41 Magnum Blackhawk...BTW, last year I had some problems with the cylinder pin coming out, so I replaced it with a new pin and lock from Ruger...haven't had any problems so far. My Blackhawk was built in 1970 I think.

I handled a Taurus Gaucho in the gun shop yesterday and it just seemed "off", I don't know if it was the grip or the weight..just didn't seem right.

 

[Jim Puke]

I handled a Taurus Gaucho in the gun shop yesterday and it just seemed "off", I don't know if it was the grip or the weight..just didn't seem right.

The Gaucho has a terrible reputation...like a lot of things, Taurus.

 

[6gun]

So has anyone else had problems with all the screws loosening up on a Uberti every time it's used?

 

[Ale-8(1)]

Way back in injuneering skool the term "kip" (abbreviated K) referred to one thousand, usually pounds, with "25KSI" meaning "25 thousand pounds per square inch". Yeah, we used slide rules, too.

;)

 

[Pal Val]

Still arguing whether to abbreviate numbers using Latin (M for mille) or Greek (K for kilo)? Jeez! What's next? An argument about what holster to wear to a formal wedding?

 

[Ale-8(1)]

"What caliber for bear??"

;)

 

[Galaxiedan]

Through all this I'm still trying to figure out what a revovler is! :)

 

[WIL TERRY]

Still arguing whether to abbreviate numbers using Latin (M for mille) or Greek (K for kilo)? Jeez! What's next? An argument about what holster to wear to a formal wedding?

IFFEN IT AIN'T full flower carved shuck in the S.D.Myres manner and fashion you're just nothing but a heathen.
AND so it goes...

 

[Armybrat]

I thought mm stood for Marilyn monroe.