sr9c carry condition..

mintaka

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I'm used to carrying 1911's..cocked and locked condition 1...I have new sr9c for carry when smaller lighter gun is more comfortable..
I notice that the safeties on both guns are both swipe down for fire...so I guess in theory the ruger with the safety on, one in chamber,striker cocked is no difference than condition 1 with 1911..and that's how I'll plan to carry the sr9c..
I would think with trigger safety and thumb safety I have all bases covered...does anyone carry any differently??
 
I carry mine safety off. The striker is only half cocked normally and is fully cocked when you pull the trigger. It is a DOA trigger mechanism, not SA. I find no need for the thumb safety on this firearm.
 
mintaka said:
I notice that the safeties on both guns are both swipe down for fire...so I guess in theory the ruger with the safety on, one in chamber,striker cocked is no difference than condition 1 with 1911..and that's how I'll plan to carry the sr9c..
I would think with trigger safety and thumb safety I have all bases covered...does anyone carry any differently??

Absolutely agree. You've already got the draw / click motion down with the 1911...don't change a thing. 8)
 
Ditto to what Verndog said.

I went shooting this weekend with a LE buddy and he fell in love with my SR9c. He usually carries a Glock on duty and is also qualified to carry a 1911. The one thing he really liked about the SR9c is the safety features, both the thumb safety and the mag safety. He loves his Glocks but wishes they had manual safeties.

If you're used to carrying a 1911 cocked and locked there's no reason not to carry the SR9c with the safety on. Same manual of arms.
 
I wish the safety was a little larger and more forward on the SR9c like a 1911, but it's better than the one on the glock =)
 
Realistically, the thumb safety is redundant on the SR9 but it does make the gun a bit proprietary. Someone who shouldn't have the gun (say a child) can't fire it by just pulling the trigger.
 
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I have the sr9c and I plan on carrying with the safety on,... I practice drawing from my IWB holster and clicking off the safety at least 50 times a day, I figure I have a few months before my CCH gets here which should be plenty of time getting the motion down as second nature, plus I reset the safety every time I reholster which is also a good habit to get in... I have little ones and I feel more comfortable with the safety on.
 
Verndog said:
mintaka said:
I notice that the safeties on both guns are both swipe down for fire...so I guess in theory the ruger with the safety on, one in chamber,striker cocked is no difference than condition 1 with 1911..and that's how I'll plan to carry the sr9c..
I would think with trigger safety and thumb safety I have all bases covered...does anyone carry any differently??

Absolutely agree. You've already got the draw / click motion down with the 1911...don't change a thing. 8)

Ditto-
 
Chambered with safety on. Same motion as 1911 as stated. One of the reasons I chose this pistol. Keep the muscle memory the same.

Adam
 
Chamber loaded safety off my finger is my safety and it is the only carry gun I own with a safety installed.
 
Verndog said:
mintaka said:
I notice that the safeties on both guns are both swipe down for fire...so I guess in theory the ruger with the safety on, one in chamber,striker cocked is no difference than condition 1 with 1911..and that's how I'll plan to carry the sr9c..
I would think with trigger safety and thumb safety I have all bases covered...does anyone carry any differently??

Absolutely agree. You've already got the draw / click motion down with the 1911...don't change a thing. 8)

10-4 on that one good buddy.
Like they say, "don't go off half cocked"
Sal
 
Sinkhole said:
I carry mine safety off. The striker is only half cocked normally and is fully cocked when you pull the trigger. It is a DOA trigger mechanism, not SA. I find no need for the thumb safety on this firearm.


Is this right???

I was thinking that the striker was all the way "cocked" and the movement in the trigger was simply moving the striker blocker out of the way.
 
timboy said:
Chamber loaded safety off my finger is my safety and it is the only carry gun I own with a safety installed.

While that sounds great, so many cops have fired their manual safety less Glocks when holstering/unholstering, that it has coined the phrase: "Glocking yourself".

Also, if your weapon has a manual safety, my opinion is that you should train to thumb the safety off, regardless of whether or not you carry safety on or off. The safety can become engaged in the holstering process. If you are going to be thumbing the safety off anyway, you might as well get the advantage of carrying with the safety on. Just my .02.
 
ECUfan said:
Sinkhole said:
I carry mine safety off. The striker is only half cocked normally and is fully cocked when you pull the trigger. It is a DOA trigger mechanism, not SA. I find no need for the thumb safety on this firearm.


Is this right???

I was thinking that the striker was all the way "cocked" and the movement in the trigger was simply moving the striker blocker out of the way.

It's close to right. I think it's more like 70% cocked but point being the striker does move to 100% cocked at trigger pull. Hence the designation DA.
 
Verndog said:
ECUfan said:
Sinkhole said:
It's close to right. I think it's more like 70% cocked but point being the striker does move to 100% cocked at trigger pull. Hence the designation DA.
As long as the striker block functions properly, it makes no difference if the striker is 10% cocked or 100% cocked. The striker is locked until the trigger is actually pulled.
 
22/45 Fan said:
As long as the striker block functions properly, it makes no difference if the striker is 10% cocked or 100% cocked. The striker is locked until the trigger is actually pulled.

It actually matters in that trigger pull will be harder and longer with less pre cock.
 
Verndog said:
22/45 Fan said:
As long as the striker block functions properly, it makes no difference if the striker is 10% cocked or 100% cocked. The striker is locked until the trigger is actually pulled.

It actually matters in that trigger pull will be harder and longer with less pre cock.
Absolutely correct but the subject here is safety, not trigger pull quality. My point was that the safety of the pistol is unrelated to how far the striker is pre-cocked.
 
I carry the LC9 and SR40c with the safety off but i like them having a safety because i always engage it when holstering the pistol then disengaging it when pistol is in place. I have carried one or the other every day for over a year and have never had the safety become engaged while pistol was in holster.
 
I just picked up a SR9c. I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. Monday hopefully! Anyway, I watched several of Hickok 45's videos on the gun. He stated that because of the very smooth trigger, he would carry it with the safety engaged?
I'll have a better feel for it when I get to the range...
 
Cubby said:
I just picked up a SR9c. I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. Monday hopefully! Anyway, I watched several of Hickok 45's videos on the gun. He stated that because of the very smooth trigger, he would carry it with the safety engaged?
I'll have a better feel for it when I get to the range...

I bought one last weekend and put 50 rounds through it at a friend's farm this afternoon. First handgun I've ever owned. Gun operated flawlessly, can't say same for the operator :roll: I'm considering carrying with the safety on, personally.
 
Hrothgar said:
Cubby said:
I just picked up a SR9c. I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. Monday hopefully! Anyway, I watched several of Hickok 45's videos on the gun. He stated that because of the very smooth trigger, he would carry it with the safety engaged?
I'll have a better feel for it when I get to the range...

I bought one last weekend and put 50 rounds through it at a friend's farm this afternoon. First handgun I've ever owned. Gun operated flawlessly, can't say same for the operator :roll: I'm considering carrying with the safety on, personally.

Just remember when you do practice with it to make sure you practice your draw taking the safety off. Just a freindly reminder

matt
 
norfolknova said:
Just remember when you do practice with it to make sure you practice your draw taking the safety off. Just a freindly reminder

matt

Thanks, don't even have a holster yet, hope to get one this week.
 
I carry my SR9c in a bianchi series 100 holster, locked, cocked and ready to rock with the safety ON. Doesn't take much to get used to taking it off when drawing the weapon, and, frankly, i feel better with it on. I also have a little one running around and practice drawing and switching the safety off (after the chamber's cleared) with the 10 rd mag in place (full). I practice trigger squeeze after doing this a while, i drop the mag, and re clear the chamber, then do trigger squeezes for a while, maintaining sight picture. At the range i go to, i can do these drills with live ammo and shoot and do pretty well at 25 yards (blank paper at 25 yards, cause this weapon, and it's purpose for me, i'll never shoot anything that small at that great a distance, so i accept my shortcomings in accuracy in the exchange for speed of firing first few rounds). Hope this helps. :)
 
Yesterday I bought a Nate Squared Tactical original holster. I like it but I'm a rookie at this. It's very comfortable, wore it around the house with the empty SR9C in it most of the evening. It's a bit difficult to re-holster but if I pull it while carrying concealed I may not have to worry too much about how fast I get it back in the holster. May be a bit of a pain to practice the draw with, though.
 
You must remember that you are not trying to outdraw an enemy... this is no longer the old west. Part of carrying is to know when and if you should draw your weapon. Therefore, the flipping of the manual safety down to shoot will not be a big deal.

Unless you draw on someone holding a gun on you or challenge him to a duel. In which case you should not even be carrying a gun. 8)
 
Being new into CC, I just can't wrap my head around carrying with the safety off. Maybe it's just from decades of my dad telling me, "don't take that safety off until you're ready to fire." Now I know if I'm drawing my weapon I'm ready to fire, but the words "don't take that safety off" lead me to believe it was in the on position to begin with. I guess over the years I may change my thought on this, but for me, it's one in the pipe and safety on.

As with anything, choice of cigars, Coke/Pepsi, Ford/Chevy, pork/beef...it's all personal preference and no matter what you choose, you're right. Well except on the Coke/Pepsi thing, Pepsi is terrible. :wink:
 
I always have mine chamber loaded safety on but regardless of what you do, the key is to practice! Always, always practice the manual of arms. Even if it's a "house gun" that you keep in a drawer somewhere, practice with it at least once a week for at least 15 minutes to remind yourself and your "muscle memory" of where you normally set the controls. The SR series are very safe guns even loaded and chambered with the safety off but I prefer to keep mine with the safety on. Once you train yourself with that, you don't forget it, any more than you'll forget putting a little more snap in your motion when racking the slide.

I've done some fun drills with my gun. I've gone so far as to practice field stripping/reassembling in complete darkness, manually loading the magazine with gloves on in complete darkness, and manually chambering a round from a new magazine with only one hand, using the front sight against a hard surface to rack the slide. That and a little weekly familiarity with the pistol and I figure I understand it pretty well. :)

I do those things from time to time not to demonstrate my "SR9 prowess" to anyone, but because I bought the gun so that I could use it to protect myself, and it's conceivable where I live that I might have to do those things in the dark, in the cold, with gloves on, etc.

Always practice safely!
 
Nobody worries about carrying a double action revolver without a safety. But everybody worrys about a striker fired auto wich is esentialy a double action. I think if it has a safety you should probably use it. Regardless if you use it or not if the pistol you carry has a safety you should drill that thumb flip firmly into your muscle memory.
 

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