boomer92266
Blackhawk
what speed loader will fit my 357 service six? or would speed strips be better? thanks
speed loader?
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Jim Puke
Hunter
Speedstrips are virtually worthless for a quick reload.
You want the Safariland loader at the link below.
http://www.safariland.com/revolver/speedloader---comp-ii-11231.html
You want the Safariland loader at the link below.
http://www.safariland.com/revolver/speedloader---comp-ii-11231.html
Big Old Boy
Hunter
Years ago I used the hks as a Leo and they work real well, carried in a split pouch on your belt and you don't even know you have them on.
22/45 Fan
Hunter
I've used both the HKS and Safariland speedloaders and far prefer the Safariland. They are more secure and much less likely to dump the rounds unexpectedly.
Jim Puke
Hunter
22/45 Fan said:
Bingo!
HKS is not even in the same league as Safariland loaders.
GunnyGene
Hawkeye
I'll second the Speedloader vs the strip. Even my wife can manage those with her S&W model 60.
That said, in a emergency situation, even a speedloader is too slow no matter how fast you think you are. If you can't end it with 5 or 6 in the cylinder, you're probably going to die. Especially if the other guy(s) have you outgunned.
That said, in a emergency situation, even a speedloader is too slow no matter how fast you think you are. If you can't end it with 5 or 6 in the cylinder, you're probably going to die. Especially if the other guy(s) have you outgunned.
Jim Puke
Hunter
GunnyGene said:
Yeah, but there are several scenarios that could warrant a quick reload that could save your life. Self defense situations are dynamic and one size does not fit all.
Duffy
Bearcat
I got a couple safariland speed loaders for my S&W J-frame off of Amazon for about $10 ea.
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Go to five star speed loaders and you won't want anything else. They are far superior to the others that are available IMHO.
Duffy
Bearcat
eveled said:
I'll have to give 5 star a try. I know Safariland is way better than HKS. HKS speed loaders will lose the rounds while jangling around inside your pocket
I was wondering about the earlier statements... I've been using HKS loaders since the early 80s and never had one drop the rounds unintentionally... but I don't carry them in a pocket (too bulky for my pockets). I use either a SL pouch or a spilt-six carrier.
The 5-Star loaders I bought for my LCR (HKS J frame loaders are just a tad too big) appear to be an all-aluminum version of the HKS.
Speed strips work better for me if I Feel I have to pocket carry a reload.
The 5-Star loaders I bought for my LCR (HKS J frame loaders are just a tad too big) appear to be an all-aluminum version of the HKS.
Speed strips work better for me if I Feel I have to pocket carry a reload.
I mostly agree with Gunny, but just in case Jim Luke is right I carry a speed strip. Fastest reload is a 2nd gun IMHO.
22/45 Fan
Hunter
I used to use HKS speedloaders for my 686 to shoot PPC competition. They were carried in a belt carrier, never loose in a pocket. Several times they released the rounds prematurely since it's possible to twist the release knob inadvertently too soon during a fast reload. The Safariland speedloaders never do this.9x19 said:
5of7
Hunter
I carried a Smith 442 and then a 642 for years and have tried speed loaders, but while they are faster than one at a time reloading, I concluded that they are not fast enough to be all that useful.
Now I carry a LC9s and am much pleased with that, but if I ever go back to a revolver, I will have it altered to receive full moon clips. This type of reloading is fast enough to maybe get you out of a tight spot.....IMO. 8)
Now I carry a LC9s and am much pleased with that, but if I ever go back to a revolver, I will have it altered to receive full moon clips. This type of reloading is fast enough to maybe get you out of a tight spot.....IMO. 8)
gatorhugger
Blackhawk
Very strange I was just about to post this same thread for my new speed six. I have tried the HKS ones years ago, and the rounds jiggled, but the new ones say "non jigggle". All the reviews I have read at brownells and elsewhere said the safariland was garbage, and here I hear they are the best.
I don't know what kind to get now, but either way shipping is a killer, a $10 loader, and $10 shipping unless combined with other stuff, but academy doesn't have the HK-3 for the speed six. They have everything else of course.
I don't know what kind to get now, but either way shipping is a killer, a $10 loader, and $10 shipping unless combined with other stuff, but academy doesn't have the HK-3 for the speed six. They have everything else of course.
Cheesewhiz
Hunter
gatorhugger said:
If you have Amazon Prime, the shipping is free for the Safarilands, all of them. That's why we have it at home here, it saves a ton on shipping if you buy on line a lot and there's a bunch of free or hugely discounted movies on demand.
...and the proper one for a Security/Service Six is a Safariland Speedloader - Comp II
Jim Puke
Hunter
5of7 said:
Apparently, you have not practiced enough. Safariland loaders are as fast as moon clips. My son and I have challenged each other a lot on reloads...,he will be reloading his 1911 and I will reload my 642...if he is not perfect...I will get him every time. You just got to get your technique worked out and practice. Now, if you don't practice it...it will not happen quickly, but it can be done quickly.
22/45 Fan
Hunter
Huh? The Brownells web site reviews I just looked at give them 4+ out of 5 ratings. How much better do you want?gatorhugger said:
In the early 90's I bought 2 HKS .38 spcl speedloaders and a leather belt slide that holds both. I wore them with Winchester +P Silvertips when I carried my Detective Special in the 90's. They were hard to get used to, but eventually I got a pretty good bead on them. Still, even with periodic practice sessions I felt a little uneasy thinking of a high alert event where I'd need to reload under a lot of pressure. I eventually switched to carrying a Gold Cup with 2 extra magazines.
I've since hear/read good things about the Safariland speedloaders. Whichever ones you end up with I can't overestimate the need to practice using them, very frequently(!) You'll feel a lot better.
I've since hear/read good things about the Safariland speedloaders. Whichever ones you end up with I can't overestimate the need to practice using them, very frequently(!) You'll feel a lot better.
Bob R
Single-Sixer
I have ended up carrying a little taller speed loader myself.
GP100 3": Safariland Comp III
K Frame 3" 66-2, and 2" 64-6: Jet Loader
SP101 2,25" & 3": Jet Loader
I shoot in revolver match's every month. I also conceal carry pretty much daily. I belt carry my snubs in Pancake Holsters at 4 O'Clock. I normally carry a speed loader in a Big Creek Kydex belt carrier weak side either infront of or behind my Cell Phone carrier depending on belt loop location.
Safariland Comp I or Comp II VS HKS: In a belt speed loader carrier the HKS has a knob to get ahold of, that I prefer. I can live with a Safariland Comp II belt carried in a CD-2 spring steel carrier. I am not a fan of the comp I.
HKS VS 5 Star: The 5 Star is better made, and more expensive. In some applications such as the LCR38 or LCR357 they are the only game in town. Issues I have with the 5 Star, they turn backwards to an HKS to release the rounds. Someone at 5 Star had their head in the clouds when they did this. I have owned HKS speed loaders for 40 years. I still carry them some, and use them regularly for Load & Make Ready. I will not carry the 5 Star speed loaders due to the backwards release mechanism. If you have not been using HKS for years, you are going to like the 5 Star however. They are well made, and concealable.
The HKS speed loaders are under $10 new. They work pretty well. AND are made for most common revolvers, except the LCR. A good value.
Jet Loader VS Safariland Comp III: The Jet Loaders are shorter and more compact for concealed carry on the belt. The Jet Loaders are made in J Frame size, while the Comp III is not. I own I believe 10 of them for my SP101 revolvers I shoot in BUG Division. They work great. In the K Frame the Jet Loader is a little smaller in diameter than a Comp III, which helps on the K Frame, adding just a hair more clearance than a Comp III. For the L Frame & GP100 either will work fine. Again the Jet Loader is shorter in overall profile. The Jet Loaders are built a little better than a Comp III, however the Comp III's work just fine, and are cheaper and easier to find.
Moon Clip VS Speed Loader:
With a moon clip in the revolver you get all the empties out in a cluster when doing a reload. With a moon clip loaded revolver you cannot get a shell case under the extractor star when you get sloppy on your reload. Big Deal in a high stress situation.
If one jacket or vest pocket carrys moon clip reloads, make sure your ammunition is held securely in the moon clip. I prefer carrying both moon clips and speed loaders on the belt, so you can do a speedy reload. On the belt your ammunition is oriented nose down when you grab it off the belt. You will have to orient your ammunition when carried in a pocket, which costs time.
Speed Strips: They are slower than a speed loader. I still carry them. I wear vests a lot in cool to cold weather. Both a Duluth working man's vest and the heavier Iron Range Vest for colder weather. I keep a 6 round speed strip in each vertical patch pocket. With the light weight working man's vest the speed strip in the pocket works the same as weighting the bottom of the vest so that it sweeps clear when making a draw from the holster. Weighting a vest is Gaming using a weight. It is a good plan when done with a speed strip adding 6 rounds per pocket to your firepower with the same results.
The speed strip is also a good way of packing some shotshells for snakes also.
Depending on what and how you carry, you have lots of considerations on what works best for you. Practice with whatever you carry.
Example of a kydex speed loader carrier.
A Jet Loader in a Kydex belt carrier. As you can see they are not a problem to carry and conceal.
Bob R
GP100 3": Safariland Comp III
K Frame 3" 66-2, and 2" 64-6: Jet Loader
SP101 2,25" & 3": Jet Loader
I shoot in revolver match's every month. I also conceal carry pretty much daily. I belt carry my snubs in Pancake Holsters at 4 O'Clock. I normally carry a speed loader in a Big Creek Kydex belt carrier weak side either infront of or behind my Cell Phone carrier depending on belt loop location.
Safariland Comp I or Comp II VS HKS: In a belt speed loader carrier the HKS has a knob to get ahold of, that I prefer. I can live with a Safariland Comp II belt carried in a CD-2 spring steel carrier. I am not a fan of the comp I.
HKS VS 5 Star: The 5 Star is better made, and more expensive. In some applications such as the LCR38 or LCR357 they are the only game in town. Issues I have with the 5 Star, they turn backwards to an HKS to release the rounds. Someone at 5 Star had their head in the clouds when they did this. I have owned HKS speed loaders for 40 years. I still carry them some, and use them regularly for Load & Make Ready. I will not carry the 5 Star speed loaders due to the backwards release mechanism. If you have not been using HKS for years, you are going to like the 5 Star however. They are well made, and concealable.
The HKS speed loaders are under $10 new. They work pretty well. AND are made for most common revolvers, except the LCR. A good value.
Jet Loader VS Safariland Comp III: The Jet Loaders are shorter and more compact for concealed carry on the belt. The Jet Loaders are made in J Frame size, while the Comp III is not. I own I believe 10 of them for my SP101 revolvers I shoot in BUG Division. They work great. In the K Frame the Jet Loader is a little smaller in diameter than a Comp III, which helps on the K Frame, adding just a hair more clearance than a Comp III. For the L Frame & GP100 either will work fine. Again the Jet Loader is shorter in overall profile. The Jet Loaders are built a little better than a Comp III, however the Comp III's work just fine, and are cheaper and easier to find.
Moon Clip VS Speed Loader:
With a moon clip in the revolver you get all the empties out in a cluster when doing a reload. With a moon clip loaded revolver you cannot get a shell case under the extractor star when you get sloppy on your reload. Big Deal in a high stress situation.
If one jacket or vest pocket carrys moon clip reloads, make sure your ammunition is held securely in the moon clip. I prefer carrying both moon clips and speed loaders on the belt, so you can do a speedy reload. On the belt your ammunition is oriented nose down when you grab it off the belt. You will have to orient your ammunition when carried in a pocket, which costs time.
Speed Strips: They are slower than a speed loader. I still carry them. I wear vests a lot in cool to cold weather. Both a Duluth working man's vest and the heavier Iron Range Vest for colder weather. I keep a 6 round speed strip in each vertical patch pocket. With the light weight working man's vest the speed strip in the pocket works the same as weighting the bottom of the vest so that it sweeps clear when making a draw from the holster. Weighting a vest is Gaming using a weight. It is a good plan when done with a speed strip adding 6 rounds per pocket to your firepower with the same results.
The speed strip is also a good way of packing some shotshells for snakes also.
Depending on what and how you carry, you have lots of considerations on what works best for you. Practice with whatever you carry.
Example of a kydex speed loader carrier.
A Jet Loader in a Kydex belt carrier. As you can see they are not a problem to carry and conceal.
Bob R
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