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[JackBull]

Have you modified your weapon? No, I have not modified my weapon. (My gunsmith did but I have not.)

You sound like a democrat during a congressional hearing.

 

[LDB]

You sound like a democrat during a congressional hearing.

Sadly like too many on both sides of the aisle. But just trying to answer truthfully as I swore to do.

 

[Duffy770]

I like to change the black plastic grips to something more aesthetically pleasing. Many years ago I used Altamont grips, but the last ones I ordered were very disappointing. All customer service would say is “color variation”. Solid black vs gray and black laminate isn’t variation, it’s a change.

I also like to change the springs. If you plan to carry get a good holster.

 

[s4s4u]

Read this slowly. Customization of a hand gun carried for defense COULD be used against you in court.

Again:

 

[LDB]

Can we just say that anything can be used against someone in court and move on (and back) to actual modifications to these great guns?

 

[PRichardson87]

Post #46 literally gives you first hand experience. I dont know why people continue to entertain these baseless claims from the same poster with a history of outrageous statements

 

[JackBull]

Again:

Posting a meme doesnt mean it isnt true.

 

[Busterswoodshop]

Just curios .
Does a modified gun , kill you any more dead , than a non modified gun ?

 

[JackBull]

Just curios .
Does a modified gun , kill you any more dead , than a non modified gun ?

It doesnt matter what a board thinks, what matters is what a jury thinks.

 

[PRichardson87]

 

[contender]

"It doesnt matter what a board thinks, what matters is what a jury thinks."

True enough.

But a jury only hears what is presented in court. And a jury doesn't get to ask questions of any body except the judge.

Again,, the experienced posted earlier has stated that he has never had that kind of question come up.

The only time I would think a "modified" gun question would be asked would be when a firearm was illegally modified to something like full auto,, (think Glock switch here etc,) or something done to point to pre-meditated intent to do harm to others. Maybe like a school shooting or something similar. And then,, federal charges would be put forth because of such illegal modifications.

But the casual gun owner,, who has an action job, a custom set of sights & grips etc on their SD firearm,, using it for the protection of themselves or their family,, would not encounter such questioning.
Remember,, lawyers do not ask questions they don't already know the answer to, or feel they do know the answer to. And a prosecutor who might be trying to convict a casual gun owner involved in a SD case,, would not want to present an opening to the defense to allow them to exploit the fact that this gun owner modified the gun to make it easier & more capable of being used in SD. Think of the little old lady who can't easily rack a slide, but gets a gun slicked up to make it easier to work the action. The defense would LOVE to have a prosecutor open that door. It would point to the defendant being a weaker victim in the eyes of a jury.

Jack,, I do see your thought process, and the direction you feel you should go. But there just isn't any evidence pointing any cases where such actions have been brought up in a court case. Yes,, there is "always a first time" consideration.

You can do as you please towards your personal SD carrying. But to try & put illogical fears into the mix,, for others here,, just doesn't have any evidence in facts.

 

[JackBull]

Sadly like too many on both sides of the aisle. But just trying to answer truthfully as I swore to do.

Sorry but that is a lie and you know it.

 

[JackBull]

"It doesnt matter what a board thinks, what matters is what a jury thinks."

True enough.

But a jury only hears what is presented in court. And a jury doesn't get to ask questions of any body except the judge.

Again,, the experienced posted earlier has stated that he has never had that kind of question come up.

The only time I would think a "modified" gun question would be asked would be when a firearm was illegally modified to something like full auto,, (think Glock switch here etc,) or something done to point to pre-meditated intent to do harm to others. Maybe like a school shooting or something similar. And then,, federal charges would be put forth because of such illegal modifications.

But the casual gun owner,, who has an action job, a custom set of sights & grips etc on their SD firearm,, using it for the protection of themselves or their family,, would not encounter such questioning.
Remember,, lawyers do not ask questions they don't already know the answer to, or feel they do know the answer to. And a prosecutor who might be trying to convict a casual gun owner involved in a SD case,, would not want to present an opening to the defense to allow them to exploit the fact that this gun owner modified the gun to make it easier & more capable of being used in SD. Think of the little old lady who can't easily rack a slide, but gets a gun slicked up to make it easier to work the action. The defense would LOVE to have a prosecutor open that door. It would point to the defendant being a weaker victim in the eyes of a jury.

Jack,, I do see your thought process, and the direction you feel you should go. But there just isn't any evidence pointing any cases where such actions have been brought up in a court case. Yes,, there is "always a first time" consideration.

You can do as you please towards your personal SD carrying. But to try & put illogical fears into the mix,, for others here,, just doesn't have any evidence in facts.

I have been there, I have seen what prosecutors will do. Ive had the police question why I carry on my property, even though it is legal. The police and prosecutor conspired to deny police evidence to confuse the jury. Prosecutor interviewed the person that provided my training for a CCP. Claims I was a gun nut. All done to protect someone connected to the local police.

 

[LDB]

Sorry but that is a lie and you know it.

No, it is not. It would be a lie if I said I modified my gun. I am not a gunsmith and not qualified to modify a gun. So when asked if I have modified my gun the truthful reply is I have not. I know that doesn't fit the narrative you want on this thread, but it is the letter of the law truthful answer. Don't take my word for it, ask Perry or Ben.

 

[JackBull]

No, it is not. It would be a lie if I said I modified my gun. I am not a gunsmith and not qualified to modify a gun. So when asked if I have modified my gun the truthful reply is I have not. I know that doesn't fit the narrative you want on this thread, but it is the letter of the law truthful answer. Don't take my word for it, ask Perry or Ben.

You are using the law to lie. If thats the type of man you are, then we are done here.

 

[hittman]

Lie by omission is a thing ….

 

[LDB]

Ohhhh, so if I tell the truth I am lying but if I lie I am telling the truth. Got it.

 

[hittman]

You tolerate that from your kids?
Or spouse?

 

[LDB]

Lying, no. So I'd expect they would answer truthfully to the question that was asked. Don't like the answer? Didn't ask the right question. Sorry some of you can't manage to see that.

 

[JackAsinus]

Sorry but that is a lie and you know it.

Let's keep politics out of the general threads and keep them confined to the forums that they belong. I'm not as conservative as many here and I steer clear of those forums intentionally.

 

[Ruger00fan]

OP,

How is the revolver shooting? Did you find a set of grips that you liked?

 

[LDB]

I still haven't subdued Murphy and been to the range. Hopefully soon.