Single-Nine & Single-Ten: why?

I suppose that I really needed my SS Single Six convertible. I bought it just weeks ahead of the higher capacity revolvers' introductions. I have yet to fire it, but I have it, if I ever want to use it. Jack
 
I believe there is a niche market for the venerable old .22 Mag, so the Nine offered is the candy served. There has and I believe will always be a market for the .22LR but the combo offering may have been marked with a balk, so not offered. I have both Combos of Ruger and Colt New Fronntier, and the Single Ten. The Single Nine is on my "get" list but bumped down as tactical weapons take priority now and will add the Nine later. Like many, I'm a .22 junkie and like all offerings in a combo of some sort.
 
Has anyone actually measured the bore/land dimensions of the Single-Ten and Single-Nine?
I'm told and have read that Ruger made them differently to accommodate the accuracy potential of the 22 Winchester Magnum (.224"), and the 22LR (.222") bullets.
In the convertibles of course, the bore is a compromise, or the difference is "split" at .223".

I don't have the two models (yet) to do a side by side comparison...

- Is the Single-Six 22 Convertible really five guns in one? Or six?
(22 Short, 22 Long, 22 Long Rifle, 22 shotgun, 22 WRFM, 22 WRFM shotgun)
? :wink:
 
Ale-8(1) said:
The concept of a "high-capacity, single-action .22 revolver" makes me giggle.

Probably gives Senator Feinstein heartburn, though.

Sorry.

:lol: :lol: :roll: :lol: :lol:

Me too, but then I am old skol when it comes to revolvers, especially single actions. I've often said if you can't get it done with 6 you probably can't get it done with "X" either (ie 9 or 10).
 
mohavesam said:
Has anyone actually measured the bore/land dimensions of the Single-Ten and Single-Nine?
I'm told and have read that Ruger made them differently to accommodate the accuracy potential of the 22 Winchester Magnum (.224"), and the 22LR (.222") bullets.
In the convertibles of course, the bore is a compromise, or the difference is "split" at .223".

I don't have the two models (yet) to do a side by side comparison...

- Is the Single-Six 22 Convertible really five guns in one? Or six?
(22 Short, 22 Long, 22 Long Rifle, 22 shotgun, 22 WRFM, 22 WRFM shotgun)
? :wink:

I slugged mine ............ it is .224

edit : my Single Ten that is ............
 
.22 convertibles are overrated. The two cartridges rarely shoot to the same POA and I always end up dedicated a sixgun to one or the other. So a non-issue for me.

As far as capacity, when it comes to .22's, there's no such thing as too many. So yes, I thoroughly enjoy the added capacity of my USFA 12/22.
 
I've been a fan of the Single-Six convertible since the '60's. I have to admit though that me and others that had them rarely, if ever, shot the .22 mag, (noise and expense), but it was nice just to have the option.

When I noticed the introduction of the Single-Ten, I thought that it was neat but not neat enough to buy one and I thought the HIVIZ sights were a joke! But being a huge fan of .22 firearms and loving Ruger single actions when I saw a virtually new Single-Ten, (only 50 rounds through it), being offered at a bargain price I jumped on it.

Let me tell you, the example I received is a jewel and built as quality as any Ruger revolver I've ever seen and it's more accurate than any Ruger single action I've ever shot. I actually have come to love the HIVIZ sights and they work extremely well with my 65 year old tired eyes. The extra 4 rounds are a nice bonus to me. If I have to punch out six rounds to reload, it's nicer to have ten rounds available before I have do it.

My favorite Ruger single action .22 has always been my trusty little Bearcat but this Single-Ten is now right up there with it. If I would have known what I know now, I would have paid full retail for the Single-Ten and been happy. Like I stated in another thread, I think it's a "must have" for any Ruger single action fan.
 
Dang Gene, I've developed a strong preference for Old Models but you've about got me talked into a blued 4 5/8" Lipsey's Single Ten at the local shop. Got an idea for a project that would involve the XR3 grip frame from my 50th .44Mag. :wink:
 
CraigC said:
Dang Gene, I've developed a strong preference for Old Models but you've about got me talked into a blued 4 5/8" Lipsey's Single Ten at the local shop. Got an idea for a project that would involve the XR3 grip frame from my 50th .44Mag. :wink:

Go for it Craig and that sounds like a winning combo! You won't be sorry.
 
The single nine shoulda been a Bisley. Long sighting radius, adjustible sights and more powerful wmr seem to be more suitable on a target gun than a quick draw gun.
 
I like the extra 4 rounds in a cylinder. Mine goes to the range or farm every trip. The MK and buckmark shooters gravitate over to it like bugs to the light on the 22 range when you ping the metal dueling tree at 25 yards with it ten times. It likes whatever ammo you have.

The lipsey blue with light walnut grips is my pick.

As for the single nine in a dedicated 22 mag. I like it. Tends to grow on you, its accurate and balances well. Agree with the 22 to 22 mag change is a POA and POI adjustment (knowing where it shoots).
 
I'm still trying to figure out why the Single-Nine and Single Ten at all. Six rounds aren't enough in a single action .22 rimfire? Well, I guess someone at Ruger decided we needed an "assault rimfire revolver" and decided stuffing more rounds into the cylinder was the way to make one. :roll:
 
One reason is that some other manufacturers have .22 revolvers with more than six chambers.

Marketing folks hate having their products seen as "inferior" in any respect.

;)
 
I have a friend that carries a 9-round revolver when he's hiking, H&R IIRC, because he can fire 3 sets of 3 shots. Standard distress signal is 3 shots.....
 
Gene said:
CraigC,
Sorry to go off-topic but you make some really nice holsters. I may have to go for one for my Single-Ten!
Thanks!


Jeepnik said:
Six rounds aren't enough in a single action .22 rimfire?
Uh, no! I don't know why anyone wouldn't want more. When it comes to blastin' with a .22LR, more is better and too many is just enough.
 
im really wanting a single 10
I fondled one at the LGS the other day and its sweet
can anyone point me in the direction of a good price on one???
thanks
 
Jeepnik said:
I'm still trying to figure out why the Single-Nine and Single Ten at all. Six rounds aren't enough in a single action .22 rimfire? Well, I guess someone at Ruger decided we needed an "assault rimfire revolver" and decided stuffing more rounds into the cylinder was the way to make one. :roll:

You ask why? I ask, why not? It is logical to increase the number of rounds if the space in the cylinder allows it. With 22's the more the merrier IMO.

I also love the fact of having revolvers dedicated to each different chambering. If I pick up my single 9 I know for sure the sights are set for the .22 mag. Convertible revolvers never have appealed to me.
 
vquad said:
im really wanting a single 10
I fondled one at the LGS the other day and its sweet
can anyone point me in the direction of a good price on one???
thanks
I believe the blued Lipsey's model in a local shop is $439.
 
Ale-8(1) said:
I note that Ruger still offers both the Single-Nine as well as the Single-Ten. While I applaud Ruger for pursuing the "optimization" of the Single-Six envelope, I have to wonder about the necessity for offering both models.

One of Ruger's biggest selling points for the Single-Six over the last fifty years has been the practice of furnishing both .22LR and .22WMR cylinders in the now-famous "convertible" package, beginning a practice that fathered the .357/9mm and .45 Colt/.45ACP Blackhawks, and later the Buckeye converts and their cousin the .44Mag/.44-40 and a couple others.

I cannot help but wonder why Ruger does not just offer a .22LR convertible cylinder in the Single-Nine and be done with it. Yes, I suppose having a ten-shot single-action rimfire in the lineup can be considered a plus to the marketing boys, but I'd surely be interested to know how many of those are sold compared to the present Single-Nine version, and if that difference wouldn't be more than covered by a nine-shot convertible at a considerable economy of effort when compared to having two different guns in the line . . . particularly when the current Single-Nine is only offered in a not-extremely-popular chambering.

Yes, I'm aware that the .22WMR is limited to nine rounds by the size of the cylinder.

I have no dog in this hunt . . . just wondering what the rest of you think about it.

:mrgreen:

I just bought a Single Ten and I love it. It will replace my S&W M617 with ten round cylinder, which will be sold later this year.

I have no interest in shooting 22 magnums, so the Single Ten is perfect for me and those like me. People prefer 10 shots to 9 or 6 for the same reason people prefer 6 to 5 in larger calibers.

I also have the SP101 in .22 LR with 8 round cylinder and a Mark II. All my .22 handguns and two of my .22 LR rifles are Rugers, and they would not be if it were not for the increase in capacity of their cylinders.
 
vquad said:
The one I mentioned was stainless at bass pro shop for $549.00
Expensive...
But a very nice firearm
It's on my "to do" list

Trust me, even at that price, you will love it and it's worth every penny of $540.00!
 
mohavesam said:
Has anyone actually measured the bore/land dimensions of the Single-Ten and Single-Nine?
I'm told and have read that Ruger made them differently to accommodate the accuracy potential of the 22 Winchester Magnum (.224"), and the 22LR (.222") bullets.
In the convertibles of course, the bore is a compromise, or the difference is "split" at .223".


I'm curious too. Anybody have the answer?
 
This is easy to check.

Bores sized to the Magnum bullets will JUST accept a 7/32" drill bit into the muzzle, but those sized for only LR will not.

Use the "smooth" end of the bit, not the fluted end, and DON'T FORCE IT.

If you manage to jam a drill bit in your barrel, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE.

:) ;) :)
 
My Single Ten is .224 , I slugged it . It also shoots magnums and long rifles to an average of 1 3/4 " from 15 yards , my Single Six is about the same . Both might shoot better in the hands of someone else .

Yes you are seeing the pic right , my magnum cylinder times in the Ten. I couldn't really understand it so before firing it I had a smith check it out ....... he said I could have won a $100.00 from him when I walked in :mrgreen:

DISCLAMIER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Another Ten might not time . At any rate I'm not telling anyone to try this , I just know that with these 2 particular revolvers .... it works . I have around 200 magnums through it .

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Can't answer 'why'.....will mention I lusted after a single-10....after getting a new one and spending 8 months I still couldn't get it to group at 15 yards. Had to send it on down the line.

Other than accuracy I loved it.
 
Well I got the fever and I couldn't resist the deal.
$539.99?...nope.
Bass pro shop said I had a bunch of $ coming to me in credits plus I applied for a new cc.
You can apply as much as you want and get 10% off the purchase.
Plus the "2nd amendment deal" they are running until the 18th which picks up the tax...holy crap I walked out the door with a brand new single 10 for $346.00!
The 2 salesmen that helped were just shaking their heads and smiling.
 
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