Ruger Genius!

[BRL]

Do you guys realize that you may well be looking at the next Ruger Guru!

Yea, I don't think so either, but I went to a gun show today and bought: "Ruger Pistol & Revolvers" book!

Now I can really be confused!

Oh yea, my friend bought a 1964 (flattop?) Single Six, .22LR/Mag. with original box & papers...Real Nice!

I'm happy for him.

 

[contender]

That book is a good start in the study of Rugers.
BTW; There aren't any "flattop" Single-Sixes. The only OM Flattops were in 357 & 44 mag. And the Flattop frame was gone from them in 1963,,,!
It sounds like you friend got a RSSMX.

 

[BRL]

That book is a good start in the study of Rugers.
BTW; There aren't any "flattop" Single-Sixes. The only OM Flattops were in 357 & 44 mag. And the Flattop frame was gone from them in 1963,,,!
It sounds like you friend got a RSSMX.

Oh...the real Guru...

Thanks for the post contender!

Yea, I just thought I had seen that style described on a forum somewhere as a Flattop Single Six.

I own a Flattop and a Single Six...

Time to read the book huh!

I'll see if I can't come up with some sort of pic. of my friends OM SS, it's really nice!

 

[Sugar River]

You may be confusing the term "Flat top" with "Flat gate" which does apply to the early Single Sixes.


Pete

 

[rugerguy]

No, he is correct, that top strap of the early Single Six is indeed
"flat", with a bit of sculpting around the edges ( so it did not look like that of the Colt single actions..has a drift only rear sight, the terminoloy of the "flatop" Blackhawks, has carried over to descibe those old centerfires, not sure if Ruger ever was able to get a copy right of that but in their ads, they use this term, and capitalize the first letter "F" so it is more descriptive, but thats what it is , a 'description' that has become a noun,,,, flatop Colts were "flat" long before the Rugers but they just never called them "flatops", they ended up calling them new Frontiers, which goes back to another model of early Colt single actions, just never caught on.............the additon of an adjustable sight on the single sixes made them "supers" but they are NOT a super blackhawks, they are a super single six.........can get a bit tricky and confusing to newcomers of the Ruger lines...but English is still English, tough to learn ( ask any foreigner....)
same holds true for MK I & standard autos,and now days , the Vaquero and the NEW Vaquero..............on and on
how about clips and magazines????? :roll: 8) :wink:


add a bit to the mix, how about the use of an "M" in the RSSMX? which originally was to mean "magnum" but continued on for any of the 6 1/2 inchbarreled guns....why no RSS6X ??? hhhmmmm..........
or the the letter "S": used for 'seconds', but had meant "used" guns??????
yes Ruger could really mess up any and all terminologies at the drop of a 'pen'.............. :wink:
you become a "guru" when YOU can decifer AND explain to another person who knows NOTHING about firearms, what you are trying to teach them.......

 

[americal]

Ruger models,serial numbers, you name it takes much study :arrow: Example get a conversation started about RUGER FACTORY GRIPS it could go on for days :shock: :lol: :lol: but its FUN and if it ain't fun collect fountain pens its vast too

 

[BRL]

No, he is correct, that top strap of the early Single Six is indeed "flat", .......

I like you rugerguy!

You defend idiots!

Anyway I know even less about computers, so the best I can do at this point is to show you guys a picture of his SS that he e-mailed me, and which you can't enlarge.

I will say it's in "like new" condition, and He's debating on wether to actually shoot it or turn it into a "safe queen".

Personally, I would say " You got a NEW gun that happens to be 48 yrs. old, and in a classic action that Ruger will never produce for general sale to the public again...except for the ROA of course...and you paid A LOT LESS than what you would have for a current production SS."

I'd shoot it! :twisted:

 

[rugerguy]

nice gun, and not the one thats pictured at the top of the page, the one with the two tone ( stripped?) finish gun........depends on the serial number, the markings on the frame and of course if its got the 'spare' cylinder, if it was shipped with one ( thats the "X" contendors example above....)yes, lots to learn, and you're not the first to say I defend the "less knowledgeable"...the ONLY way one is ever going to get to learn, is ask questions and hope that in many cases they will be helped by someone who will tell them, not chastise nor pick on their lack of knowledge...I remember all the old timers who took out the time to help and answer my questions back in the 50's and 60's, and I thank them, YES< I remember the a$$holes and the jerks, who were smart a$$es, and holier than thou, and to them I say rot in hell, shame on any and all of them....I see guys today , who will NOT take the time to help or answer any of the young folks, who may walk by the gun show, or come up to one of the Ruger displays, and are told "go away kid, don;t touch the merchandise...." how sad
Again, NICE gun, and they are out there to be found..........good luck, and read the books, any and all the books you can get your hands on...... :wink:

 

[BRL]

One thing I learned from glossing over this book so far, is that I don't like the looks of the "flat gate" loading gate on the early Single Six's! :shock:

No wonder some people exchanged them for the later contoured ones.

...oh, but it makes a great Forum user name... :roll:

RUGERFORUM.COM RULES OF ETIQUETTE:

RULE #1: DON'T UPSET THE MODERATOR!!! :twisted:

 

[BRL]

yes, lots to learn, and you're not the first to say I defend the "less knowledgeable"...
Again, NICE gun, and they are out there to be found..........good luck, and read the books, any and all the books you can get your hands on...... :wink:

Good post rugerguy!

Thank You!

 

[BRL]

Here's something you might not have known:

Got this gun back from the factory recently, with two new cylinders installed.
(All free of charge, bless their little hearts!)

The cylinder pictured here is the .22 long rifle one.

Notice that there is no firing pin cut-out, so I considered the possibility that the gun would not function with the original, non-transfer bar parts reinstalled.

But it works perfectly!

The Guru has spoken. 8)

 

[street]

nice gun, and not the one thats pictured at the top of the page, the one with the two tone ( stripped?) finish gun........depends on the serial number, the markings on the frame and of course if its got the 'spare' cylinder, if it was shipped with one ( thats the "X" contendors example above....)yes, lots to learn, and you're not the first to say I defend the "less knowledgeable"...the ONLY way one is ever going to get to learn, is ask questions and hope that in many cases they will be helped by someone who will tell them, not chastise nor pick on their lack of knowledge...I remember all the old timers who took out the time to help and answer my questions back in the 50's and 60's, and I thank them, YES< I remember the a$$holes and the jerks, who were smart a$$es, and holier than thou, and to them I say rot in hell, shame on any and all of them....I see guys today , who will NOT take the time to help or answer any of the young folks, who may walk by the gun show, or come up to one of the Ruger displays, and are told "go away kid, don;t touch the merchandise...." how sad
Again, NICE gun, and they are out there to be found..........good luck, and read the books, any and all the books you can get your hands on...... :wink:

Very well put!!!!! I've seen too many of the new collectors chastise and made to feel like an idiot because they used the wrong term. Or used the wrong term in the minds of these so call experts. I have found myself defending the term "Old Model Vaquero", not because I think it's correct but because one or more of the so called experts has belittled or scorned some of the new members and made them feel like an idiot for using that term. Thank God when I started collecting, the older collectors, such as Don Findley, Jeff Munnell, Jim Dillon, Rich Machniac, Dave Hiddleson, never embarrassed me but went out of their way to be polite and help me in every way. The next time a new member uses the incorrect term some of you "EXPERTS" should find a more docile way to educate them :lol: :wink: :roll:

 

[Fox Mike]

Yea, I just thought I had seen that style described on a forum somewhere as a Flattop Single Six.

I have seen various sellers describe their Single Sixes as 'Flat top' models when they actually were either "Vaquaro" style frame models or drift adjustable sight models.

 

[flatgate]

One thing I learned from glossing over this book so far, is that I don't like the looks of the "flat gate" loading gate on the early Single Six's! :shock:

No wonder some people exchanged them for the later contoured ones.

...oh, but it makes a great Forum user name... :roll:

RUGERFORUM.COM RULES OF ETIQUETTE:

RULE #1: DON'T UPSET THE MODERATOR!!! :twisted:

Ha! Now, that there's funny and I don't care who you are!

Some of us deranged collectors of early Ruger revolvers do indeed have a sincere CRAVING for those early Single-Sixes that were produced with the "Flat" loading gates.

flatgate

 

[BRL]

OK...Now those are ALL BEAUTIFUL!

And the Plum color on #100 and #101...WOW! :shock:

Must have just been the black & white pictures in the book...