DA_TriggR4Ruger
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Does Ruger build a gun chambered in 500 magnum?
Ruger chambered in .500 mag?
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rammerjammer
Blackhawk
nope
cas said:
Yes, and Hamilton Bowen used to call the .500 Linebaugh the same, however, in most cases, when someone refers to a .500 Mag, it is the Smith & Wesson they are talking about. Keep in mind there has never been a commercial firearm chambered in .500 Linebaugh.
SPBhawk
Single-Sixer
They get pretty close with the Ruger .480.
contender
Ruger Guru
"They get pretty close with the Ruger .480."
I have to respectfully disagree. I own a Super Redhawk in 480, and a Super Blackhawk in .480. I have also shot the .500 Linebaugh as well as the .500 S&W. The .480 is not "close" as it's much more recoil friendly & controllable.
I have to respectfully disagree. I own a Super Redhawk in 480, and a Super Blackhawk in .480. I have also shot the .500 Linebaugh as well as the .500 S&W. The .480 is not "close" as it's much more recoil friendly & controllable.
chet15
Hawkeye
Yeah...I agree. I like the .480 even over the .454.
Chet15
Chet15
I don't see how anyone could claim the 480 Ruger even gets near a 500 S&W. With a 400gr bullet, the 480 is down at least 300 fps. The 500 case is nearly as long as the 480 loaded round, plus it's bigger in diameter. The 480 is basically a 475 Linebaugh "special"
contender
Ruger Guru
Let's not pick on SPBhawk. Notice I said I RESPECTFULLY disagree.
Those of us who have shooting experience can equate the differences in the two calibers, but maybe he was looking at the diameter as a comparison. .480 & .500 are "close" in diameter,,, but worlds apart in performance. And chet15 makes a valid point in the observations of the .480 vs the .454. I too have found the 454 seems to have a snappier & harsher felt recoil than my 480's. I own a FA in 454,,, and it's different than the SBK in .480 by far.
Those of us who have shooting experience can equate the differences in the two calibers, but maybe he was looking at the diameter as a comparison. .480 & .500 are "close" in diameter,,, but worlds apart in performance. And chet15 makes a valid point in the observations of the .480 vs the .454. I too have found the 454 seems to have a snappier & harsher felt recoil than my 480's. I own a FA in 454,,, and it's different than the SBK in .480 by far.
Again, Contender is "spot on"! The snappier recoil of the 454 has lead me to mothball my FA 7.5" in favor of shooting the .480 in Bisley and Alaskan configurations. My buddy's 454 Alaskan actually hurts my hand to shoot. Not so with the .480. And the 500 Smith (with 8 3/8" barrel) does not hurt to shoot (IMHO) due to it's weight. Of course, I may change my mind upon shooting this new (to me) SNUB-NOSED 500 Smith I just obtained!!! ;)
Hondo44
Hawkeye
DA_TriggR4Ruger said:
Ruger did build a SA with a frame of sufficient size to accommodate the 500 Mag: the .357 Maximum. With custom 5 shot cyls, and barrels, these have been used as platforms for many big bore cartridges.
Conceivably, the Ruger Hawkeye single shot may be another candidate for conversion with a custom barrel.
contender
Ruger Guru
"Conceivably, the Ruger Hawkeye single shot may be another candidate for conversion with a custom barrel."
Bite your tongue Hondo! That would be criminal!
Bite your tongue Hondo! That would be criminal!
CraigC
Hawkeye
Even the Maximum isn't enough gun for the .500S&W.
Hondo44
Hawkeye
contender said:
LOL. Yeah, it wouldn't be any of mine.
But there's quite a few around already rechambered to something else or in such condition that all collector value is already gone. Sadly, many were rechambered when brand new just to sell them.
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Just a couple of thoughts, the .454 will always have the old school cool factor IMHO.
I think it is funny when people want to have the biggest and baddest cartridge, then want to use a compensator.
If you really want the thrill of almost uncontrollable recoil shoot a s&w J- frame airlight .357
I think it is funny when people want to have the biggest and baddest cartridge, then want to use a compensator.
If you really want the thrill of almost uncontrollable recoil shoot a s&w J- frame airlight .357
Hondo44
Hawkeye
Or Smith 329 Airlight 44 Mag, and with 300 gr sledgehammers. Nothing else I have compares, not 454, 475 Linebaugh, 500 Mag, etc.
22/45 Fan
Hunter
I sometimes think the definition of a "collectable" is "sales failure plus time".Hondo44 said:
contender
Ruger Guru
Even shooter grade Hawkeyes still command high prices. One of mine has the top strap D&Ted, but is still nice & it cost a fair penny. But I shoot it & let others try it as well. If I found a converted one,,, I'd do my darndest to restore it.
Jimbo357mag
Hawkeye
Getting close with this. :DDA_TriggR4Ruger said:
http://gunblast.com/500Linebaugh.htm
This is about as close as you can get to a .500 Smith & Wesson Magnum in a Ruger (you can chamber a custom Max in .500 S&W as well as long as you don't load to SAAMI maximum)), a .500 Maximum. Same cartridge length, but a little more diameter (.510 vs .500) with a lower operating pressure -- 36-38,000 psi (we've run it quite a bit higher, but this is a very safe level), versus just under 62,000 psi for the Smith. I feel the .500 Smith offers nothing terminally over the .500 Maximum -- or the .500 Linebaugh or .500 JRH, or .500 WE for that matter. So, if you have to have a .50 cal Ruger, you are going to have to have one built but you have a bunch of options.
Hondo44
Hawkeye
22/45 Fan said:
You are precisely right in most cases! Unless it was a failure because it blew up or never worked right which is not common.
The Hawkeye was a sales failure, in it's case however, I think it was ahead of its time. And chambered in a wonderful cartridge, but one that was also a sales failure like the 357 Maximum.
The S&W K32 was another, not as big a failure, but too heavy a gun for the cartridge. When Bullseye Matches died, it died too. That's another gun that reaps huge prices because they are so scarce.
Some Rugers are scarce and collectible not because they failed, but just weren't offered in quantity like the 4 5/8" Super Single Six Old Model SC4.
Old Model Ruger Flat Tops, another example. Not enough made before they were supposedly "Improved".
The Ruger lightweights can be classed as a bit of a failure. Again ahead of its time. Alloy lightweight guns are much more accepted these days.
whichwatch
Blackhawk
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cas said:
The above may be the truest statement I've ever seen on this forum.
Hondo44
Hawkeye
whichwatch said:
I'm compelled to agree! Here's why: when I first got a Smith 500 4" barrel (even more cartoonish looking than the long barrels) I took my dad to the range to shoot it. But I didn't show it to him or even mention I bought it.
He was spotting for me thru binoculars as I shot my 44. I quickly exchanged the 44 for the 500 and stood in shooting stance while he focused thru the binocs. I didn't shoot it, the seconds ticked by, and he finally asked, 'Are ya gonna shoot?' I didn't respond. Finally he stole a glance my way, went quickly back to the binocs, followed by the most classic double take I've ever seen. He exclaimed 'What the hell is that, a giant squirt gun??' His instant descriptive observation was so fitting we laughed our heads off at such an obscenely obtuse looking handgun!
I have a Walker 44 Colt cap and ball 2nd generation revolver and they weigh within an ounce of each; over 4 1/2 lbs apiece!
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