LuckenbachTexas
Buckeye
"I've got two guns, one for each of ya"
cadillo said:...That wasn't the only issue with the Security Sixes though. A number of them were pulled off the line and replaced while they went to see the on base smiths. They were usually back the next range day.
...In the mid 1970s the FBI started using Winchester's 158-grain all-lead hollow-point load X38SPD. Federal followed with its 38G and Remington the R38S12. Of these, the Winchester and Remington loads performed best. Federal went through several design changes using several different bullet alloys and cavity geometries before they got their load working. To get reliable expansion requires softer alloy which causes +P loads to foul bores and impair accuracy after 18 rounds or so. The Federal 38G load in particular which used a dry lube with no cannelures on the bullet caused severe cylinder binding in revolvers which do not have a cylinder gas shield.
A gas shield or cylinder hub prevents gases carrying vaporous lead residue out the cylinder gap, from being deposited between the crane arbor and the cylinder recess on which it rotates. Remington and Winchester versions of these loads had grooved bullets with a heavy, waxy lube were less cranky in that respect, but you still have to be careful about cleaning and lubrication.
At Ruger, revolvers were assembled with a proprietary lubricant similar to Militec to help prevent the lead from binding. Applying a few drops of Mil-L-63460B (Break Free CLP) in the crane arbor each time you clean also helps. Ruger developed a "hubbed cylinder" version of the Security Six, Speed Six and Service Six revolvers to mitigate the binding problem.
This required milling a small flat across the barrel extension, which protrudes into the frame opening at the 6:00 position, to clear the hub on the cylinder. Machining the flat reduces the cross section though the barrel extension, which caused heat cracking problems when those revolvers were shot extensively with .357 Magnum ammunition. The hubbed cylinder was used only for law enforcement contracts for revolvers to be fitted with .38 Special cylinders when the lead +P ammo was specified.
LuckenbachTexas said:I got some news for you folks:
Whether its your Landrover getting mobbed in NYC, or many other instances like the VERY FEW ones below. You guys can carry a five shot revolver if you want! I know certain groups of animals flee as long as there is gunfire, and I plan to keep that fire coming. It is the least I can do for my family! When you can't even stop for a hamburger or gas while traveling without a racist mob based threat, you have to change your way of thinking. I'm more likely to carry a J-Frame in good areas of town where a mob threat is low. A revolver in some places these days is about as useful for defense or offense as a pad lock on your truck tool box. You have illegals and cartel in open range area of border states, serial killers and drug farmers on National Park land. This stuff is real folks.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/08/beaten_to_death_at_mcdonalds.html
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/18285-white-vacationers-attacked-by-black-mob
http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/black-mob-attack-on-elderly-white-halted/
http://www.conunderground.com/black-mobs-terrorizing-whites-as-planed/
http://dailykenn.blogspot.com/2014/03/woman-and-chlidren-attacked-by-black.html
http://whitegirlbleedalot.com/black-mob-attacks-cop-in-chicago-fractured-skull-media-silence/
http://angrywhitedude.com/2010/12/black-mob-attacks-white-couple-no-word-from-al-sharpton/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/08/05/report-black-mobs-attack-white-patrons-outside-wis-state-fair/
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/022329.html
http://topconservativenews.com/2012/04/black-mob-loots-store-attacks-white-couple-in-portland/
http://www.inquisitr.com/856039/white-marine-attacked-after-zimmerman-verdict-in-possible-hate-crime/
http://www.westernjournalism.com/hate-crime-disabled-veteran-attacked-mob-black-teens/
I'm not trying to spark a debate, and if you feel good with a revolver, good for you. Yes, a revolver can fail...Including the best they make!
Varminterror said:How is a thread about the reliability of revolvers allowed to devolve into racist diatribe?
Particularly insulting the way that you chose to refer to the collective race of black people as a "certain group of animals..."
Bear Paw Jack said:Varminterror said:How is a thread about the reliability of revolvers allowed to devolve into racist diatribe?
Particularly insulting the way that you chose to refer to the collective race of black people as a "certain group of animals..."
I judge people by the content of their character. It is often displayed through behavior. You assume way too much. You know nothing about me. I don't care what color a person is if they act like an animal I label them that way. I believe you are projecting your own racism on me.
Revolver-Time said:I never ever had a revolver fail. I did have an occasion where I was about to be on the bad side of a 38SPL from a Colt Detective Special. I was able to grab the cylinder and prevent it from turning. The hammer was not cocked and I got it away from her. Yes I said from her!
Varminterror said:Bear Paw Jack said:Varminterror said:How is a thread about the reliability of revolvers allowed to devolve into racist diatribe?
Particularly insulting the way that you chose to refer to the collective race of black people as a "certain group of animals..."
I judge people by the content of their character. It is often displayed through behavior. You assume way too much. You know nothing about me. I don't care what color a person is if they act like an animal I label them that way. I believe you are projecting your own racism on me.
Feel free to be defensive if you like, but I was not referencing your comments.