President Bush ceremony

[wolfsong]

Watching the arrival of Mr. Bush's remains to Washington D.C. and subsequently to the Capitol. Very solemn, very respectful. A flawless presentation by all branches of our military. Very befitting a good and decent man.

Rest in peace, Mr. President. Welcome home to our Lord, and into the arms of your loving wife.

Peace and God bless.

 

[coach]

I caught a few of the eulogies. They were quite moving.

 

[Fox Mike]

Class act for a classy man. Wife couldn't believe how long the pallbearers had to hold the heavy casket.

 

[Rick Courtright]

Hi,

I didn't get to watch the whole thing, but caught all of George W's eulogy of his Dad. I made it just about as far as he did before the screen started blurring. The seating arrangements of the former Presidents and First Ladies sure made for some uncomfortable faces! I wonder if George H.W. was giggling inside his casket at that. ;)

Getting past that little aside, everything I got to see was as classy as I'd expected.

Rick C

 

[Rancher Will]

Unfortunately I did not get a chance to see or hear any of the ceremony. I have heard the Democrat National Propaganda New Media on the radio this morning all trashing President Trump and his wife for not referring to, reciting, or doing something with or about the "Creede", or some Creede that I never heard of and am not sure what they are talking about.

Apparently both President Trump must be a heathen the same as me since I had no idea what the "newscasters" were talking about. I called our local Church Pastor and asked him what it was. He wasn't sure either but he said he has heard the term and thought it had something to do with Catholic religious procedures.

I have attended numerous funeral in my life time and I had never heard the term spoken anywhere until today on the radio, at any funeral or anywhere else.

Are the President, his wife, my wife and me all heathens or is there some Creed that we have been missing in all the funerals that we attended over the years?

 

[bogus bill]

While I respected the president I never was into pomp and ceremony I never was sentimental or the touchy feely type. That said I think it`s a little overdone. It`s been days and still going on. I think my problem is being raised in a era/area where wages were pennies compared to now and seeing and wondering all the cost of this "non productive" activity. I wonder about people joining the military to spend their lives playing a flute or whatever in a band and more so the taxpayer cost of all such pomp and ceremony. I recognize it is needed to some point but think most of this is overdone. Let the barrage began.

 

[Ale-8(1)]

The Apostles' Creed has been a part of various Christian worship services for a bazillion years. There are as many variations on it as there are denominations. In some form or other, in varied wording and emphasis, they all go something like this . . .

I believe in God the Father Almighty,
Maker of Heaven and earth,
And in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord.
Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost
Born of the Virgin Mary
Suffered under Pontius Pilate
Was crucified dead and buried.
He descended into hell.
He arose again on the third day
Ascended into Heaven
And sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty..
From thence He shall come to judge the quick and the dead..
I believe in the Holy Ghost
The Holy catholic church
The communion of saints
The forgiveness of sins
The resurrection of the body
And the life everlasting.
Amen

The term "catholic" as used does not necessarily apply to or refer as a matter of faith to the Roman Catholic Church. It was recited at the service, even printed on the "program" to insure everybody was on the same page. I haven't ever seen it used at a funeral before.

I'm making no value judgement here, and I'm sure there are folks more informed and up-to-date about this than I am. Just thought the concept should be noted for discussion if desired. I defer to those more properly schooled in this. I also avoid religious discussions myself.

 

[Rick Courtright]

The term "catholic" as used does not necessarily apply to or refer as a matter of faith to the Roman Catholic Church. It was recited at the service, even printed on the "program" to insure everybody was on the same page. I haven't ever seen it used at a funeral before.

Hi,

Written in lower case, common use of the word "catholic" in the theological sense implies "universal" (as in the universal Christian church.) Upper case refers to a particular branch, i.e. the Roman Catholic church. So all you guys who are Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, and on and on thru the many Christian denominations are members of the "catholic" church, but you aren't "Catholics." Simple enough?

I gathered from the commentators the Bush family is predominately Episcopalian (or "English Catholic" as a client from England calls the Anglican church, which is what they call the Episcopal church over there.) I spent half my "church going" life in the Episcopal church, the second half in the Catholic, and there's little enough difference between their core beliefs that it's hardly worth a conversation. I don't recall the Apostles' Creed being used directly in either faith's actual funeral services, but that doesn't mean it can't be. However, that prayer is one of those said when Catholics recite the Rosary, something often done a day or two before the actual funeral service, so in that sense, I suppose we could say the prayer is frequently part of a Catholic funeral for sure.

Rick C

 

[exavid]

Class act for a classy man. Wife couldn't believe how long the pallbearers had to hold the heavy casket.

I've carried two but they were much lighter than they looked. Stamped out of thin aluminum but look like cast bronze.

 

[gramps]

Unfortunately I did not get a chance to see or hear any of the ceremony. I have heard the Democrat National Propaganda New Media on the radio this morning all trashing President Trump and his wife for not referring to, reciting, or doing something with or about the "Creede", or some Creede that I never heard of and am not sure what they are talking about.

Apparently both President Trump must be a heathen the same as me since I had no idea what the "newscasters" were talking about. I called our local Church Pastor and asked him what it was. He wasn't sure either but he said he has heard the term and thought it had something to do with Catholic religious procedures.

I have attended numerous funeral in my life time and I had never heard the term spoken anywhere until today on the radio, at any funeral or anywhere else.

Are the President, his wife, my wife and me all heathens or is there some Creed that we have been missing in all the funerals that we attended over the years?

Rancher Will if you and yours are heathen, then I am right there with you. Never heard of “The Apostle’s Creed” till H. W.’s funeral.
gramps

 

[gramps]

Rick, you have once again enlightened me, as you frequently do. 8) I just found out I was a part of the catholic church. :shock:
gramps

 

[wolfsong]

How or why someone could find fault with someone not of the same faith abstaining from reciting a tenet or ritual ascribed to a different faith is beyond me. I find it hypocritical, disingenuous, insensitive and downright rude to question, in any manner, the faith of another. A man's conviction and connection to his God are between him and his God, and no other man can measure its strength.

I also heard some hack commentator harping about Trump's posture (body language) while sitting through the service. Give me a break, already.