powders

[any ruger]

Found 3 powders at legs. Green dot. Titegroup and power pistol 24$ a# never used any of them what are they good for.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

A little bit about Red, Green and Blue Dot powders.

http://web.archive.org/web/20020212162750/http://www.sixgunner.com/paco/pprofile5.htm

 

[Jim Puke]

I sure would like to have some of that Power Pistol...

 

[Cholo]

Jim, I got a # of Power Pistol for $20 at a recent gun show. I'd also bought 2-3 #'s of other powder and he offered it at a discount for me to try out. I havn't yet.

 

[Jim Puke]

Jim, I got a # of Power Pistol for $20 at a recent gun show. I'd also bought 2-3 #'s of other powder and he offered it at a discount for me to try out. I havn't yet.

Cholo...sounds like I need to go to a gun show with you. Every time I go, no powder...

 

[any ruger]

Jim Luke what do you use tube power pistol in

 

[Cholo]

JL, you have to go to the shows from south Atlanta north.

 

[any ruger]

Dixeiboy did what you said. Not gonna get any of them

 

[OldePhart]

Found 3 powders at legs. Green dot. Titegroup and power pistol 24$ a# never used any of them what are they good for.

I won't ever call anything "unbeatable" but Titegroup really comes close for 9mm and 40 S&W pistol loads...

 

[sixshot]

If you shoot handguns all 3 of those powders are good ones. Buy them if the price is right. None of them are useful for top end, magnum loads but for everyday midrange stuff they are excellent in just about any caliber.

Dick

 

[Cheesewhiz]

Dixeiboy did what you said. Not gonna get any of them

Yah, I'm sure you know much more about reloading than any dumb book could show you. Reading is for losers.

 

[Bucks Owin]

I've found Green Dot to be a fine powder in my .45LC for 250 gr cast bullets at standard velocity. (850 fps)

Two centavos...

 

[Jimbo357mag]

Education is great but opinions on powders carry a lot of weight with me. Many professional gun people and reloaders are willing to give an opinion and relate stories of experience that will give a person a better idea what a powder is like rather than just relying on the cold hard facts of a reloading data set. Ask a cowboy shooter what he likes then ask a long range target shooter what he likes and notice the differences. There are lots of nuances in loading up our rounds, provided by different powders.

 

[any ruger]

Jimbo thanks I did buy a new reloading book layman 49th. My ? Was just to get a heads up on some powders I never used

 

[Cheesewhiz]

The reason that I feel it's important to have several hard references for my reloading information is to be able to intelligently extrapolate the data to form my loads using a variety of components. It has come in as very helpful these last few years with powder and sometimes bullet shortages being the new norm.

I feel it's also important to keep those references up to date as new powders or reconfigured powders seem to arrive on the scene on a yearly basis.

Having trusted sources to base your hypothesis' on as you use a similar bullet or an extended mechanical length or some other form of variation is absolutely necessary in my reloading. I find that this data does not confine me but allows me to find some centers based on good information and makes me better at this hobby that I love.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

Having trusted sources to base your hypothesis' on as you use a similar bullet or an extended mechanical length or some other form of variation is absolutely necessary...

I believe Mr Richard Lee is the father of extrapolation/interpolation with regards to reloading. Ever read his book? It's a collection of just about every loading data set available without too much detail on components. ...and he goes off on some of his own reloading ideas like reduced pressure loads and bullet hardness.

from the net.

Extrapolation is an estimation of a value based on extending a known sequence of values or facts beyond the area that is certainly known.

Interpolation is an estimation of a value within two known values in a sequence of values.

 

[Bucks Owin]

I believe Mr Richard Lee is the father of extrapolation/interpolation with regards to reloading. Ever read his book? It's a collection of just about every loading data set available without too much detail on components. ...and he goes off on some of his own reloading ideas like reduced pressure loads and bullet hardness.

Mr Lee's book is a very interesting read for those who can understand internal ballistics. His foray into cast bullet BHN and pressure are consise, well taken, and parallel the views of Veral Smith and Glen Fryxell, two guys who I respect greatly in regard to shooting cast lead bullets! Perhaps you should reread and quote anything you have trouble understanding. I know casting your own bullets and getting leading free jacketed performance from them is outside your comfort zone... :wink:

 

[Jimbo357mag]

Mr Lee's book is a very interesting read for those who can understand internal ballistics. His foray into cast bullet BHN and pressure are consise, well taken, and parallel the views of Veral Smith and Glen Fryxell, two guys who I respect greatly in regard to shooting cast lead bullets! Perhaps you should reread and quote anything you have trouble understanding. I know casting your own bullets and getting leading free jacketed performance from them is outside your comfort zone... :wink:

Oh I agree with his pressure vs lead hardness formulas They make more sense than saying lead should be kept below 1200 fps or such, but they can be taken into untried territory if you are not careful, especially with regard to reduced power loads. I think he makes some statement about such and such powders can be reduced by up to 20% and some other powders by up to more than 30% but I wouldn't go there without some proof that the loads are safe. It's like using that QuickLoad program, plug something in and get XXX out. Well maybe and maybe not!! :roll: :roll:

 

[Dan in MI]

Regarding powders, multiple manuals are your friend, burn rate charts are good to have around too.

If you're going to talk cast bullets you always need to include bullet/bore diameter and lube in the discussion. Lube type, diameter's and the bullets grease groove size and location can have a decided input to the leading equation. Possibly far more than pressure and hardness. I can't argue the fine points as I rely on a close gunsmith friends that has been studying in detail, let me rephrase that, FINE detail, cast bullets since the early 60's.

 

[Bucks Owin]

Amen to above regarding lube. Sometimes I worry about the day old Veral goes to his reward. Hopefully he will pass on the formula for LBT soft blue to someone!

Maybe I better lay in some more, I'm down to a dozen sticks... :wink: