Old Model Conversions

[conder0289]

Quick question on Ruger's Old Model Safety Conversions, does Ruger in anyway stamp the frame to denote that a revolver has been returned and converted by them ? I saw mention of this on another forum, I personally have never seen evidence of this on any Old Model that I have or examined, Thanks in advance

 

[Ruger45]

Never heard of such a thing. How ever I would bet if you sent for a factory letter it would say that it came back on this date for the conversion.

 

[32shooter]

This was discussed several days ago in the classified section. Looks like they stamp it between the grip frame and the cylinder frame. http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=248189

 

[conder0289]

Thank you

 

[conder0289]

Would anyone happen to have a clear photo of stamp on the Frame ?

 

[contender]

Many of the guns, (OM's) that are returned & that get the "safety conversion," will be marked on the underside of the main frame, that is out of sight when the gun is assembled. The mark will be a "R" to allow any FUTURE lawyer (from Ruger,) to dispute a claim if somebody re-converts it to an OM, & negligently discharges the firearm.

It doesn't affect the value of a gun because there is no action modification to the gun.

 

[conder0289]

Many of the guns, (OM's) that are returned & that get the "safety conversion," will be marked on the underside of the main frame, that is out of sight when the gun is assembled. The mark will be a "R" to allow any FUTURE lawyer (from Ruger,) to dispute a claim if somebody re-converts it to an OM, & negligently discharges the firearm.

It doesn't affect the value of a gun because there is no action modification to the gun.

Thanks Contender,
I understand were it would be located but I do disagree to a point that it does affect the value. Most dealers I buy from will always ask more for a unconverted 3 screw, normally I am allowed to partially disassemble a gun at my LGS only because of my loyal business with them over the years. I am not sure how many dealers know about the Cylinder frame being marked to show that the revolver was sent in to be converted, but if it has the old model parts still installed, it doesn't mean its original, and I would like to see it for sure

 

[Ruger45]

I have a clear photo of the frame of a converted one that I unconverted.

 

[Ruger45]

Many of the guns, (OM's) that are returned & that get the "safety conversion," will be marked on the underside of the main frame, that is out of sight when the gun is assembled. The mark will be a "R" to allow any FUTURE lawyer (from Ruger,) to dispute a claim if somebody re-converts it to an OM, & negligently discharges the firearm.

It doesn't affect the value of a gun because there is no action modification to the gun.

Thanks Contender,
I understand were it would be located but I do disagree to a point that it does affect the value. Most dealers I buy from will always ask more for a unconverted 3 screw, normally I am allowed to partially disassemble a gun at my LGS only because of my loyal business with them over the years. I am not sure how many dealers know about the Cylinder frame being marked to show that the revolver was sent in to be converted, but if it has the old model parts still installed, it doesn't mean its original, and I would like to see it for sure

As you can see from my pics you may not get the whole story by taking the gun apart. I may just send for a letter to see what it will say.

 

[rugerguy]

hard to tell and cannot see clearly any "R" stamped on that one, normally it is pretty vivid, will try and locate the picture we have in the other computer, someplace.......as for a factory letter, they do not send out letters on "service work"....never seen or heard of one, and know many people who have asked over the years...........
good luck

 

[contender]

"I understand were it would be located but I do disagree to a point that it does affect the value. Most dealers I buy from will always ask more for a unconverted 3 screw,"

Yes, a converted gun will sell for less than an unconverted one. BUT,,,, to those of us who seriously collect,, once it is converted back to "original" configuration,,, there is no deduction in value.

And you do not have to take one apart to see if it has been back for the safety conversion. If it has the parts in it,, they are easily seen.

And if you take one apart, and know it went back, yet doesn't have the mark,, why worry about it?

 

[gtxmonte]

Many of the guns, (OM's) that are returned & that get the "safety conversion," will be marked on the underside of the main frame, that is out of sight when the gun is assembled. The mark will be a "R" to allow any FUTURE lawyer (from Ruger,) to dispute a claim if somebody re-converts it to an OM, & negligently discharges the firearm.

It doesn't affect the value of a gun because there is no action modification to the gun.

Thanks Contender,
I understand were it would be located but I do disagree to a point that it does affect the value. Most dealers I buy from will always ask more for a unconverted 3 screw, normally I am allowed to partially disassemble a gun at my LGS only because of my loyal business with them over the years. I am not sure how many dealers know about the Cylinder frame being marked to show that the revolver was sent in to be converted, but if it has the old model parts still installed, it doesn't mean its original, and I would like to see it for sure

Sorry, but this makes zero sense. Either the pistol is converted or it isn't. No disassembly required to tell. If it has been sent to Ruger and now old parts are back in it, no longer is it converted..........stamped or not. Who would care if it was the original to the gun parts, nor could you tell anyway. You can't take a 40 year old pistol apart and say yes or no if that is the original lockwork it left the factory with.......no way.