Old Army on GB-WOW and it's not good
- Thread starter lark63
- Start date
roashooter
Single-Sixer
- Joined
- Oct 26, 2007
- Messages
- 124
"Very good condition"......you have got to be kidding.....that ROA is a wreck....
wizofwas
Buckeye
looked very rusted to me.
Lost Sheep
Single-Sixer
Hard to tell, but the grips look in very good condition. I am thinking about bidding $50, not sure it I want to pay shipping.
At first, I thought perhaps the owner decided to give it an "antiqueing" treatment.
Lost Sheep
At first, I thought perhaps the owner decided to give it an "antiqueing" treatment.
Lost Sheep
tek4260
Buckeye
Got to be kidding me. Looks like the all the other muzzleloaders that get fired and are not cleaned. Realistically it should be thrown in the dumpster.
Gussers
Single-Sixer
The minimum you can bid is 329.99
that is where it starts
that is where it starts
Colonel Daddy
Buckeye
OUCH! :cry:
EDK
Single-Sixer
Gussers said:
AND where it's going to stay! Repair and refinish would be a labor of love.
Lefty SRH
Blackhawk
Poor ROA, I think she is sad and begging for a rescue....
Coogs
Maximum
"urban" Camo.................or it went through a fire and someone put a set a grips on it.......... :shock: :shock:
Charon
Single-Sixer
Bet it will still shoot, even as bad as it looks.
Axehandle
Buckeye
Yikes! A shooter for sure! :D
TomC321
Single-Sixer
Ruger’s website indicates it was made in 1975. It appears to have been fired, then buried in the back yard, then recently dug up and “refinished.” I know black powder guns can look bad. I have seen some Civil War veterans that looked bad, but this is the worst I have seen a gun look that was made in the last 50 yrs.
farmall1456
Bearcat
That Old Army makes my unfired Liberty marked stainless look really good.
nvbirdman
Blackhawk
Look at the screws on that thing. Nobody has ever taken it apart to clean the lockwork. I bet the lockwork has more rust than the barrel.
Lost Sheep
Single-Sixer
Thank you for the swift reply. I have three Old Armys myelf (one "Liberty Model" I bought new in 1976 and is still unfired, one that a machinist customized with jeweled parts and a red-dot scope and one that is box-stock.
I hesitated to mention this and debated whether to send this email. I finally figured that you would want to know. You seem to be working hard on building a good reputation and would want to know.
I send you this message out of the love of Rugers and Old Armys in particular.
Your post has attracted some comment on Rugerforum.com. You should read this thread:
http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=137399&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
If you cleaned the gun and took some close-up photographs of the insides of the gun (at least of the works that are visible with the grips removed) you might be able to get something close to what the gun is worth. As it is, there is no assurance that the bore is not pitted (much less bright, with sharp lands and grooves, as would be expected with a good condition shooter). As it is, your gun appears to be as described in the thread:
"Repair and refinish would be a labor of love."
"Poor ROA, I think she is sad and begging for a rescue...."
The grips appear to be in good condition, and alone might fetch $25 to $35. I surmise that the original finish was Blued (all mine are stainless) and there is 0% of the original finish remaining. If your gun is safe to fire, it might bring the total value up to $50 to $100. If the innards are clean and sharp (assuming the damage to the exterior was inflicted on purpose and care was taken that the gun's interior was protected) the gun may be worth up to $150. The flask may add a little value. The powder and primers are not shippable with more cost than they are worth, so local sale on those would be best. Both would require hazardous material handling fees, while the gun, lead balls and (empty and cleaned) flask can be mailed via U.S. Postal Service (since it is not a cartridge arm) and without FFL paperwork.
Making a modern replica firearm appear as it if might be an original (for the purpose of CASS) may be part of the sport, doing it to a non-replica, modern design seems completely inadvised and a waste of a fine firearm.
I am so sorry to be the bearer of what I assume will be an unwelcome opinion, but I see from your other sales that you are a sincere seller and do care about fine firearms and your own reputation. I trust you receive my opinion in the spirit in which it is given.
I am not a professional gunsmith, but an amateur of over 30 years interest.
Good luck. As a labor of love, I would undertake the restoration of a fine revolver, but alas, cannot invest what you require. If you put it up for sale with better pictures, a cleaned bore and the story of how the finish came to be the way it is, I imagine you could get what the gun is truly worth. I do hope it will go to someone who will appreciate it. Seeing your gun is like looking an abused pound puppy.
Lost Sheep
P.S. I have hopes that he will be able to sell this gun to some Ruger lover at a fair price so that it can be safely shot again. Failing that, perhaps the steel will return to as an SP101 or Single-Six or Single-ten. Call me a romantic.
I hesitated to mention this and debated whether to send this email. I finally figured that you would want to know. You seem to be working hard on building a good reputation and would want to know.
I send you this message out of the love of Rugers and Old Armys in particular.
Your post has attracted some comment on Rugerforum.com. You should read this thread:
http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=137399&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
If you cleaned the gun and took some close-up photographs of the insides of the gun (at least of the works that are visible with the grips removed) you might be able to get something close to what the gun is worth. As it is, there is no assurance that the bore is not pitted (much less bright, with sharp lands and grooves, as would be expected with a good condition shooter). As it is, your gun appears to be as described in the thread:
"Repair and refinish would be a labor of love."
"Poor ROA, I think she is sad and begging for a rescue...."
The grips appear to be in good condition, and alone might fetch $25 to $35. I surmise that the original finish was Blued (all mine are stainless) and there is 0% of the original finish remaining. If your gun is safe to fire, it might bring the total value up to $50 to $100. If the innards are clean and sharp (assuming the damage to the exterior was inflicted on purpose and care was taken that the gun's interior was protected) the gun may be worth up to $150. The flask may add a little value. The powder and primers are not shippable with more cost than they are worth, so local sale on those would be best. Both would require hazardous material handling fees, while the gun, lead balls and (empty and cleaned) flask can be mailed via U.S. Postal Service (since it is not a cartridge arm) and without FFL paperwork.
Making a modern replica firearm appear as it if might be an original (for the purpose of CASS) may be part of the sport, doing it to a non-replica, modern design seems completely inadvised and a waste of a fine firearm.
I am so sorry to be the bearer of what I assume will be an unwelcome opinion, but I see from your other sales that you are a sincere seller and do care about fine firearms and your own reputation. I trust you receive my opinion in the spirit in which it is given.
I am not a professional gunsmith, but an amateur of over 30 years interest.
Good luck. As a labor of love, I would undertake the restoration of a fine revolver, but alas, cannot invest what you require. If you put it up for sale with better pictures, a cleaned bore and the story of how the finish came to be the way it is, I imagine you could get what the gun is truly worth. I do hope it will go to someone who will appreciate it. Seeing your gun is like looking an abused pound puppy.
Lost Sheep
P.S. I have hopes that he will be able to sell this gun to some Ruger lover at a fair price so that it can be safely shot again. Failing that, perhaps the steel will return to as an SP101 or Single-Six or Single-ten. Call me a romantic.
MOUNTAIN WILLIAM
Blackhawk
The seller is a lost cause. I looked at one other item he has for sale and his description of it is more kind than the one he used for the ROA. I didn't bother to look at another one.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=268638947
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=268638947
Three50seven
Buckeye
And of course he's from Indiana :oops:
edlmann
Blackhawk
Rattle-can - right over the pits.gknr4f said:
It's not just you.Darkwolf said:
Lefty SRH
Blackhawk
I wonder if the nipples are frozen
Lefty SRH
Blackhawk
Theres no rear sight blade either, I wouldn't mind recueing it but not for that price!
WASATCH CHARLIE
Bearcat
must be the one i hid in a creek on my old gold creek claim,back in 1993,when i thought the feds were going to take all of our canadian handguns EH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!forgot about the plastic bag!can i get it back?? will pay up to $13 .00 postage. tks :lol:
cashloanswaste1
Bearcat
We are a pawnshop and we never would have treated a gun like this. We have around 60 auctions on gunbroker at any on time. We sell several a week and the two young ladies that are in charge on posting items on ebay and gunbroker have no previous knowledge of firearms. Do not be haters when you have no knowledge of the history of an item.
Lefty SRH
Blackhawk
cashloanswaste1 said:
I don't think we are "haters", nobody you abused the gun. But at the starting price you will definately have to find the right buyer.
Lefty SRH
Blackhawk
A gun in this condition definately raise some "history" questions.
Similar threads
