No 1B .223?

[Danny]

For the past years I have been buying No. 1 Rifles. Getting a 1B in .223 has been on my list and has proven to be the most difficult rifle on my list to get. My list included only slightly harder to find common rifles. I have seen SOME, but none that I bid on or was able to win on auction. The .223 B should be a really simple to find rifle, but that seems to not be playing out in real life. I seem to see more 6mm, .220 Swift V and B models, and more .218 Bee and .22 Hornet B rifles. I found a Hornet years ago. That should be more difficult to find than a .223 B model. I have multiple V Swift models which should be a little more difficult as well. Can anyone explain the trouble I have had in finding a B .223?

Thanks,

Danny

 

[picketpin]

Probaly way more "V" in than "B". Most guys just weren't interested in a 11 pound sporter in 223. They were cataloged for quite a whilebut as you mention the "B" come up less often then the "V"s but more often than the "AB"s which is actually as rare as the "A"s in my opinion.

Just keep looking and one will turn up. Probably NOT at a bargain price but there have been at least two in the last couple of months on GB. In think I paid $750 for my "B" back in the late 80s.

Only "V" listed longer than the Swift are the 25-06 1971 and the 22-250 1970 till at least 2006. Plus now there is all the NEW Swift "V" from last year. Though that not a real high number. Lots of them on the market right now though.

Ross

Lots of 220 Swift "V"s probably only more B 7Mags, H 375 H&H and H 458 Wins on the used market. If you are seeing 6mms "V" in Red Pad you might want to give it a good look. While cataloged for years they didn't make many and while probably not RARE they are damned uncommon. The 243 "V" was cataloged for one year, 1984. We won't even talk about a 280 Rem "V" one of two I don'y have. ;-( I've seen 3 in 50 years and none were for sale.

RWT

 

[Danny]

Thanks for the input. I may have seen the B .223 models if they were on GB. I just don't remember. Probably if I saw them, I either didn't feel like letting the $$ out at the time, or they were a bit plain in the wood department. or some of both. Originally, as my first No. 1, I wanted to get a 6mm V model. I am kind of a 6mm fan. One never came up in a deal that worked for me, so I ended up with the others first. As I am really a shooter, not a collector, I have been figuring out that for Groundhogs, especially where I am, 6mm may be more than what is needed, so I have moved that on my wish list. Still, eventually, I suppose I will end up with one.

I don't know much in detail about the models other than the B and V models, as those are the ones I shoot and accumulate to shoot.

Danny

Probaly way more "V" in than "B". Most guys just weren't interested in a 11 pound sporter in 223. They were cataloged for quite a whilebut as you mention the "B" come up less often then the "V"s but more often than the "AB"s which is actually as rare as the "A"s in my opinion.

Just keep looking and one will turn up. Probably NOT at a bargain price but there have been at least two in the last couple of months on GB. In think I paid $750 for my "B" back in the late 80s.

Only "V" listed longer than the Swift are the 25-06 1971 and the 22-250 1970 till at least 2006. Plus now there is all the NEW Swift "V" from last year. Though that not a real high number. Lots of them on the market right now though.

Ross

Lots of 220 Swift "V"s probably only more B 7Mags, H 375 H&H and H 458 Wins on the used market. If you are seeing 6mms "V" in Red Pad you might want to give it a good look. While cataloged for years they didn't make many and while probably not RARE they are damned uncommon. The 243 "V" was cataloged for one year, 1984. We won't even talk about a 280 Rem "V" one of two I don'y have. ;-( I've seen 3 in 50 years and none were for sale.

RWT

 

[RSIno1]

I've been looking for a 1V in 223 which I already reload just so I don't need to add more brass & dies to the reloading bench for a caliber I don't have. I found a 22-250 with 100 rounds of ammo included so I'll be able to shoot it for awhile and then only need to buy more dies.

 

[Danny]

I've been looking for a 1V in 223 which I already reload just so I don't need to add more brass & dies to the reloading bench for a caliber I don't have. I found a 22-250 with 100 rounds of ammo included so I'll be able to shoot it for awhile and then only need to buy more dies.

The V .223 models are pretty evenly available regularly. You won't be able to find a lot of them at any one given time like with a V .22-250, but if you look at the usual sites regularly, you will find something that you like. As I noted above, the B .223 don't seem to be that easy to find.

Danny

 

[Rockrat]

Had to re-read this as I thought I stumbled on a rarity, but it is the 1V in 280 thats rare, not a 1B.!!

 

[loaded round]

Just wanted to say that I have a 1B in 223 in 98+ condition and it is one excellent handling and accurate shooting rifle. IMHO, their worth their weight in 22LR ammo (worth more than gold these days) if you can find one. Most owners won't give their's up readily.

 

[RSIno1]

I need to get a 1V to add to my meager collection I have a 1B-300WinMag 1S-7mmRemMag 1H-458WinMag RSI-30-06. I'd prefer a 223 as I already have ammo and dies. I see a lot in 22-250 and 220 Swift so I may end up with one of those.

 

[picketpin]

IF you have in fact run across a 280 #! "V" that is factory you have just found the or nearly the RAREST #1"V"
made. Only thing rarer is the one of one proto-types built before 1970.

Ross

 

[Gonfishn]

Guess I shoulda read down a bit before I posted my most recent purchase. I got ahold of a 1B in .223 and it's rated as 99% plus. Can't even tell if its been shot or not that's how nice it is. Long story short, I'm into it for just south of $1200 but I guess its to each our own when it comes to having to have something.

 

[grumpy7159]

Guns International has 2 listed at this time.

 

[ilikerams]

We won't even talk about a 280 Rem "V" one of two I don'y have. ;-( I've seen 3 in 50 years and none were for sale.

RWT[/quote]

Do you mean something like this?

 

[gewehrfreund]

They do exist!

 

[Larry from Bend]

I had a #1B in .223 for years in the 90s. Never could get it to group well and in the same place day after day. It was going to be my Prairie Dog rifle. I really enjoyed shooting it but after sinking more gunsmith $$$ into it --- I gave up. All of the forearm hangers, isolators, etc .... wouldn't help. I had a friend with a #1V in .223 that shot pretty well but not great either.

Rugers had some bad barrels during this time period.

 

[ilikerams]

I bought a 1-B .223 about five years ago off GB for $800 NIB. I put a little piece of rubber between the fore end and the barrel and played with the fore end screw a bit, and ended up with three different loads that will shoot under moa at 100 yds. I am using a lot of glass tho (40x).

 

[ceadermtnboy]

There is one at Carolina Pawn in Canton NC

 

[SHOOTER]

I want to see this rifle and the wood on it ....

 

[357Maximum]

I had one in .223 it is now a .225 Win serial number 134-206xx , fairly plain wood, but it shoots 55gr bullets very well as a .225. Never shot it as a .223.

357

 

[Danny]

I got one (finally) about a week ago on Gunbroker. I did not win the wood lottery, but it is in nice shape and is a red pad gun.

Danny