New idea for a Ruger rimfire auto - the un-charger

[woodpuppy]

So Ruger took an established rifle from their line, lopped off the stock and the barrel, and called it a pistol.

What would happen if they did the same thing from the other direction? Let's start with a MKII, install a 16.5" barrel, and add a folding stock. Now there's a much more useful take on the survival rifle; beats the AR-7 for function if not self storage.

what do you think? or has it been done already?

Dave

 

[tcrace]

I like your idea. Similar to the Buck Mark rifle but with a folding stock and built from the Ruger Mark II/III pistol. I'd buy at least one :)

 

[WIL TERRY]

EVERYTHING has been done already at least once. Browning did this some years back with their Buckmark pistol and Unique [ a French gun company of cool stuff..] did it in the late '50's with their "UNIQUE" pistol.

 

[woodpuppy]

EVERYTHING has been done already at least once.

True, but AFAIK not with the Ruger MKII as a base! just have to watch out for that bolt :shock:

Some ideas almost "get there." The market is full of products with good ideas but the complete package doesn't do it for me. And for goodness sakes, put decent sights on them!

 

[tcrace]

"just have to watch out for that bolt"

The Buck Mark rifles have a line on the stock to remind shooters to keep their face behind it to avoid getting hit with the bolt.

Another thing to consider is in some rare instances the bolt ears have come off the bolt body of the Ruger MarkII. I never knew it was two pieces until I saw the photos. Probably not a big concern, but it can happen.

I still like the idea.

 

[BlkHawk73]

As mentioned, Brow ing did this. Beretta also has a separate carbine kit for their Neos pistol. How much talk do you hear about these? How many do you see at the ranges, on dealers racks? Not exactly highly popular models. One goes where there's a strong market with new stuff. Then again, if such a critter is so important to have, spend the $ and get one made. :)

I even recall yrs back a company was marketing a stock that the shooter held onto the rear of the grip which allowed it to be fired as a shoulder fired firearm. As the "stock" was not actually attached to the pistol it was allowed. Never saw one and haven't heard of any similar products since so maybe some new regulation nixed that.

 

[woodpuppy]

Well I suppose you're right about the market, though the Browning is less interesting than a Benjamin Sheridan pellet rifle. People sure seem to love .22lr AR lookalikes though. They're just too complex for my taste, too pimped out if you will. If I had any skill with a lathe and welder, I'd just make one. I was thinking along the lines of the aesthetics of a grease gun, just very minimalist.

 

[Anonymous]

Ruger's gotta keep the lawyers happy. It would be based on the Mark III. The Mark II is not part of current production, anyway, so it wouldn't make sense business wise to raise costs using that.

I've never understood why the Charger costs more than most 10/22s. You get less barrel, and less wood. Surely the bipod isn't that expensive. They should do a stainless Charger, too. Probably coming in the future.

 

[BlkHawk73]

They should do a stainless Charger, too. Probably coming in the future.

There was a stainless barreled Changer made a while back. It was a exclusive model to - I think - Ellet Bros.

 

[Hauss]

Either last year or the year before, there was a custom MK II on gunbroker, with a long barrel and a shoulder stock that was tied into the grips. I probably should have saved a picture, because somebody put a lot of time and money in that one. I don't believe it sold. It didn't have the folding stock like you want though.

Hauss

 

[Spyder]

Ruger will probably never do it since ARES DEFENSE already has. Its called an ARES-22 RCU. Here it is in action. Pretty cool and of course I'd have to have the barrel threaded!

Here's one in action............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXBrPGz1ox4

 

[woodpuppy]

It looks like you just keep the gripframe and bolt out of your gun and put them on the conversion kit. Interesting, but once again, a little over the top.

Thanks for the link!

 

[Fox Mike]

Straying away from the OPs line I noticed another link showing a MK II firing in very slow motion and noticed a 'double bump' when the bolt went into battery. Never realized that happened.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMEJedgCy78&NR=1&feature=fvwp

 

[Spyder]

That's so weird. I was watching that same video after watching the one about the ARES-22 RCU. Thats called bolt bounce. Very common in .22 cal weapons. Thats one of the things that has to be overcome to make a .22 cycle full auto effectively. The common cure is to add a counter balance or weight to the bolt, sometimes in combination with a heavier spring.