New 6.5 cartridge?

[Barbarosa99]

I saw Ruger is introducing a new 6.5, the big brother to the Creedmore

 

[griffonhill]

Any more details? Link?

 

[gtxmonte]

The two newest 6.5 cartridges are the 26 Nosler and the 6.5-300 Weatherby.

So are you implying that Ruger will chamber one of these two rounds in a rifle? Would believe that one...............or are you saying that Ruger is "developing" a new 6.5 round? That last one I don't see happening

 

[Captain America]

On the Ruger site it's called the 6.5 Creedmoor, they have a plethora of rifles available chambered in it.

 

[Nomosendero]

I was very interested when I heard about the cartridge a couple of days ago but not so much now.
I am going to have a rifle built soon, a fast 6.5 is high on the list but I guess it will not be this one.
I pretty much at this point agree with these guys.
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f19/new-hornady-6-5-prc-181597/index5.html


The 6.5 Creedmoor is just about perfect for it's purpose/power level in a short action, so I thought they would have another hit, oh well ! :?:

 

[Barbarosa99]

I saw a short article last night, can't find it again. Supposed to be called 6.5 PRC, The Ruger CEO alluded to it when interviewed at the shot show by Gunblast.

 

[Nomosendero]

On the Ruger site it's called the 6.5 Creedmoor, they have a plethora of rifles available chambered in it.

That one has only been around for 10 years !
They did introduce a 6mm Creedmoor, which has nothing to do with this new 6.5 round

 

[Barbarosa99]

Hornady 6.5 PRC

 

[griffonhill]

 

[Nomosendero]

Yep, Ruger CEO says it's still a secret here:
http://www.gunblast.com/SHOT_2017_1.htm

But, a friend of mine stopped by the Hornady booth and some at Hornady are a little miffed because the cat got out of the bag a little early, so now they have to show it, as in the previous post.

But, like I said before it is surprising considering how they did it all right with the 6.5 Creedmoor. I wish they had made it VERY close to the 6.5 SAUM that GAP has touted for years or close to a WSM in capacity if they wanted it to be in a short action and I would not use it for a long action so the search continues.

 

[wunbe]

PRC = Precision Rifle Caliber?

What is there about house proprietary rounds that has Ruger so bedazzled? They are mostly doomed to yard sale status in a year or two.

wunbe

 

[Nomosendero]

PRC = Precision Rifle Caliber?

What is there about house proprietary rounds that has Ruger so bedazzled? They are mostly doomed to yard sale status in a year or two.

wunbe

Precision Rifle Cartridge

The Creedmoor is here to stay, a great success & so is the 375 Ruger.
The Ruger short mags, not so good!

 

[22/45 Fan]

It sounds like they just reinvented the .260 Remington or 6.5-06 by another name.

 

[gunzo]

Case capacity wise, it's a dead ringer for the 6.5 Rem mag which was introduced about 1965 or the 6.5-284, which had been wildcatted for years, but was legitimized by Norma in 1999. Both have to be shoehorned into a short action, & w/Hornady's advertised OAL for this one, it will too. :?

 

[9x19]

Another round with the failed SSM line of thinking?

A fat case in a short action... that only provides what a slimmer case in a long action offers, but costs 40% more per round.

 

[Nomosendero]

Case capacity wise, it's a dead ringer for the 6.5 Rem mag which was introduced about 1965 or the 6.5-284, which had been wildcatted for years, but was legitimized by Norma in 1999. Both have to be shoehorned into a short action, & w/Hornady's advertised OAL for this one, it will too. :?

Well, not really but I agree with the overall point of the gain being less than Earth shattering.
It will be faster than the 6.5 Rem Mag and 6.5x284 but could have been more.
Case Capacities of some 6.5's: http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/11755917/1

 

[steelshooterco]

At barrel life listed at 2,200 rounds, someone had better come up with a way or easily replacing barrels and selling spares!

(number written on the Hornady ammo box, looks like at one time it was only 200 and someone penned in 2,200).

Not certain what their Hornady's definition of barrel life is either, drop in accuracy or a badly burned out throat and accuracy long gone before then.

Time will tell of course.

 

[gtxmonte]

This was developed as a bench rest and or target rifle cartridge, not a hunting round. So along those lines, a 2200 round barrel life is very good. Most 6.5x284 barrels will be done in half that amount if you are really smoking them out of there. And when we are talking about barrels being "done" it is just mostly a bit of accuracy goes away. They still shoot well, but not well enough to win a match

 

[Don Lovel]

So is this 6.5 PRC in the same performance range as 26 Nosler? or is is more like the 6.5/300 Weatherby?

 

[Nomosendero]

This was developed as a bench rest and or target rifle cartridge, not a hunting round. So along those lines, a 2200 round barrel life is very good. Most 6.5x284 barrels will be done in half that amount if you are really smoking them out of there. And when we are talking about barrels being "done" it is just mostly a bit of accuracy goes away. They still shoot well, but not well enough to win a match

Exactly, that part is OK

 

[Nomosendero]

So is this 6.5 PRC in the same performance range as 26 Nosler? or is is more like the 6.5/300 Weatherby?

Not close to either one, but it was never intended to be in that class,

 

[Sugar River]

It's intended to be a standardized (SAAMI) version of GAP's 6.5 SAUM, which in wildcat form has at least 2 chamber designs. I think Hornady will find success with this one.

 

[rangerbob]

At an advertised overall length of 2.96", it's too long to fit any standard short action magazine. Ruger's short action magazine is 2.92" and Winchester and Remington run around 2.86" for the WSM's and 308 based rounds. Of course, it would not be much of a trick to lengthen the Ruger magazine .04" to accommodate the new cartridge. Montana Rifle Company short actions run 3.125" magazines. I used one to build a 358WSM rifle. At first glance, I though Hornady simply necked down their 300RCM, but using a necked down SAUM makes more sense. Bob!!

 

[Nomosendero]

At an advertised overall length of 2.96", it's too long to fit any standard short action magazine. Ruger's short action magazine is 2.92" and Winchester and Remington run around 2.86" for the WSM's and 308 based rounds. Of course, it would not be much of a trick to lengthen the Ruger magazine .04" to accommodate the new cartridge. Montana Rifle Company short actions run 3.125" magazines. I used one to build a 358WSM rifle. At first glance, though Hornady simply necked down their 300RCM, but using a necked down SAUM makes more sense. Bob!!

I couldn't agree more. This is a real head scratcher for me, as Hornady not only nailed the Creedmoor but explained how it was set up for a short action. I simply don't understand why they did not either use a SAUM or another design to be the best in a short action or do a long range fast 6.5, doing this round that is too long for a short action and too short to make sense in a long action is strange indeed !