Need help with Super Blackhawk Problem

Lostntexas

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I was shooting my 44 mag. yesterday at the range when the cylinder locked up. I removed the pin to release the cylinder but it will not come out. There are 3 live rounds still in the cylinder and I'm not sure what to do. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Lostntexas
 
What kind of ammo were you using? could there be a high primer?

If that is the case, with the base pin removed, and the loading gate open, work the cylinder towards the loading gate. A little persuasion might be necessary. Once the cylinder moves about an eighth of an inch, you should be able to turn the cylinder counter clockwise, and get the cylinder out.
 
If you were shooting pretty hot rounds in or just sometimes from an extended pounding the recoil plate around the firing pin will move back if it was not fit properly at the factory. If it is not seated into position all the way there is a gap. It sounds to me like the recoil plate has moved back and a primer filled in the gap thus locking everything together. I have had this happen twice to Blackhawks over 37 years.
 
I was shooting some reloads I bought at a gun show. I think you may be right about the high primer. It seems the cylinder won't release at the barrel cylinder. I've forced it as much as I dare and still nothing lets go. What next???
LNT
 
Had that happen with a squib, no powder just the primer and bullet. Bullet stuck in the forcing cone and front of cylinder locking cylinder until bullet was tap back into the cylinder allowing removal.

Dana
 
Chances are this is beyond something you can repair yourself, although I do not know that for sure. I would look for good gunsmith within driving distance and take it to him. You can get the cylinder out yourself using careful force as this is what a gunsmith will do anyway but the recoil plate will need the assistance of a professional. I wouldnt try to ship the loaded gun without talking to the shipper first to verify it can be done.
 
Have you verified that there isn't a bullet stuck in the forcing cone? by feeling with a long rod. That is the problem with other peoples reloads.
 
You have a bullet that has jumped the crimp, came forward out of the case tying up the cylinder, or, as mentioned a squib load stuck in the forcing cone.

Not trying to be a wise ass, but one should NEVER shoot anothers reloads. Especially reloads bought at a gun show...........................JJ
 
I'd investigate the "jumped crimp" theory. Hold the gun up and look carefully between the barrel and cylinder. You should be able to see a "sliver" of light, like 0.003" to 0.006", or a wee bit more, in the barrel to cylinder gap.

flatgate
 
If you've verified that no bullets are wedged in barrel or sticking out of any of the other chambers, you just need more persuasion. If it's a new model, once you open the gate you've lowered the bolt and can drive out the cylinder from left to right.

Believe me, you're not gonna hurt the gun as long as you drive it out with something like a rawhide mallet or well padded piece of wood. A high primer can take some force to clear the breech face. Just don't get in a hurry, keep your shooting glasses on, have someone help you, stay away from the muzzle end but be assertive. It will come out.

Let us know how you make out.
 
Lostntexas said:
I was shooting some reloads I bought at a gun show. I think you may be right about the high primer. It seems the cylinder won't release at the barrel cylinder. I've forced it as much as I dare and still nothing lets go. What next???
LNT

This was my first thought. I had a squib once that only made it half way out the cylinder. Took alot of working to get it out.
 
Take it to a smith and tell him there are live rounds in it. I once had a S&W 28 someone brought in with the same problem. The cylkinder extractor had worked its way out
 
Howdy

You should know if you had a squib and a bullet is stuck halfway into the barrel. Did the last round you fired sound weak? As far as a bullet jumping the crimp and wedging itself into the forcing cone, that is of course possible. Dropping a wooden rod down the barrel should help you decide if there is a bullet stuck in the forcing cone, as well as the good advice to look for light shining through the gap.

These are reasons I never shoot anybody else's reloads. I shoot my own reloads, or else factory loads.
 
You can't have a bullet 'jump' the crimp into the forcing cone, it can only wedge in the frame in the bottom chamber. Only rounds NOT aligned with the barrel can jump the crimp under recoil. The round aligned with the forcing cone is going to be fired and either go off as a squib and possibly lodge in the forcing cone, not go off at all, (therefore a dud and no recoil), or shoot normally.
 
Lostntexas said:
I was shooting my 44 mag. yesterday at the range when the cylinder locked up. I removed the pin to release the cylinder but it will not come out. There are 3 live rounds still in the cylinder and I'm not sure what to do. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Lostntexas

Whats The OUT Come ??

tommyt
 

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