My LCP and I parted ways.

Sturgis270

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First off let me state that I am well aware the LCP is not by any means any thing more than a close in weapon. I liked the way it carried easily in my pocket. My problem was hitting a target at 25'. Maybe my aging eyes, maybe the lack of a real set of sights. Anyway a couple of retired friends and I were together last week. Friend A said that he had just purchased a Sig P238 and wished he had bought one with a laser. I'd seen his new Sig and took a shine to it so offered to buy it, which friend A agreed to. Mean while friend B who had been listening asked if I wanted to sell the LCP. Bingo. Sold. Took the Sig to the range yesterday and shot pretty well. I am going to enjoy it. These two guns are not in the same price range so its not an apple to apple comparison. One last thing , I also have a LC9 and I really love that gun!
 
Sturgis270 said:
First off let me state that I am well aware the LCP is not by any means any thing more than a close in weapon. I liked the way it carried easily in my pocket. My problem was hitting a target at 25'.

Here in Michigan, should you shoot someone, you better have a darn good explanation on why you chose to do so at 25'. You better prove your life was in imminent danger that far away from the bad guy.

You can improve accuracy with the LCP using a laser. Shooting accurately awkwardly / off-balance.... even leaning over, is key in a personal attack with that little pocket wizard. These are point and shoot guns and I would never sell mine.
 
I've come close to buying an LCP a couple times - the size is a major plus, but I agree that the sights on the ones I've seen aren't as good as I'd like either - getting older sucks, but it is better than the alternative!

I don't just practice at spittin distance with my firearms either. If you can hit well at 25 feet, you'll hit VERY well at 10 feet. And, not all things needing shooting are going to be humans standing still with a knife at under 10 feet, and you need to be proficient with the firearm you have available, regardless.
 
I sold my LCP also. I really wanted to like it, but I just couldn't shoot it well. I reckon it was just too small and light for me. I couldn't get comfortable with it.
 
Even before my first trip to the range with my new LCP, I added Talon grips and a seven round magazine for better handling. Then I added Ruger ARX 56gr 380 ammo.

I love my LCP and it's not uncontrollable, should one make some changes that make it more accurate than the stock/factory version. It's a front pocket mainstay for me. Sometime I carry it and my 9mm on my hip, instead of adding magazines.

My only negative with the gun is the trigger. I get the "pinchees" on my index finger, for the trigger won't stop until it meets the trigger guard. So my last two range sessions saw a bandaid-wrap across my index finger and life became beautiful again.
 
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joemsj51 said:
Sturgis270 said:
First off let me state that I am well aware the LCP is not by any means any thing more than a close in weapon. I liked the way it carried easily in my pocket. My problem was hitting a target at 25'.

Here in Michigan, should you shoot someone, you better have a darn good explanation on why you chose to do so at 25'. You better prove your life was in imminent danger that far away from the bad guy.
25' = Far away? 7-8 yards can be covered very quickly by a knife wielding person.
 
Sturgis270 said:
First off let me state that I am well aware the LCP is not by any means any thing more than a close in weapon. I liked the way it carried easily in my pocket. My problem was hitting a target at 25'. Maybe my aging eyes, maybe the lack of a real set of sights. Anyway a couple of retired friends and I were together last week. Friend A said that he had just purchased a Sig P238 and wished he had bought one with a laser. I'd seen his new Sig and took a shine to it so offered to buy it, which friend A agreed to. Mean while friend B who had been listening asked if I wanted to sell the LCP. Bingo. Sold. Took the Sig to the range yesterday and shot pretty well. I am going to enjoy it. These two guns are not in the same price range so its not an apple to apple comparison. One last thing , I also have a LC9 and I really love that gun!

You have great friends.
 
I wouldn't part with my LCP. I carry it concealed every day. So far 485 trouble free rounds and contrary to what some people say I really like to shoot mine. I keep the LaserLyte zeroed in at 7 yards. When I want to carry a BIG gun I strap on my Nano. Hahaha
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I want to get a LCP but id like to fire one first.I had a glock 42 and it was to small and hard to shoot with I kept pulling it off to the left.so I moved it on down the line.
 
44-357 said:
I want to get a LCP but id like to fire one first.I had a glock 42 and it was to small and hard to shoot with I kept pulling it off to the left.so I moved it on down the line.
If you didn't like the G42 because it was too small then you sure wouldn't like the LCP. The reason you were pulling it to the left was probably poor stance or bad hand grip. Look at these videos http://www.tacticalshooting.com/videos.
I love mine for close defensive carry. It is so easy to conceal.

You should be able to rent one at a shooting range. Call around.
 
Lcp-people love em or hate em. I love mine. 1500+ rounds thru gen 1 and trigger is pretty doggone good. Really. Replaced recoil springs. Fixin to replace rod. Cheap to do. Mine way more accurate than it should be. Automatic center punch, drill a dimple, white Testor's base coat covered with flo yellow sealed w clear fingernail polish on front sight. Fantastic DAYTIME aimer! My gen 3 trigger starting out nicer, but not used to change in rear sight yet. All about grip, t finger position and pull. Not as well built as my Sig P220, but still a serviceable pocket gun.

I can easily see why some despise the lcp. Ime not particularly fond of some other popular guns. So what! To each his own. For lots of reasons.

Wouldn't mind another Sig, however....
 
I could shoot the g42 more center if I used the tip of my finger on the trigger. now the glock 43 I qualified with 94.4 days and 93.2 nights for a off duty. the G 42 was to small for my hands.
 
If the sights don't work for your eyes, I certainly understand getting rid of it.
Personally, I love mine. I find it pleasant to shoot and it will hold 2" groups pretty well at 10-12 yards. Get out to 20 yards and the groups look like a basketball. But it is a close range (1-10 yard) gun. Good luck with the Sig.
 
joemsj51 said:
Here in Michigan, should you shoot someone, you better have a darn good explanation on why you chose to do so at 25'. You better prove your life was in imminent danger that far away from the bad guy.

You can improve accuracy with the LCP using a laser. Shooting accurately awkwardly / off-balance.... even leaning over, is key in a personal attack with that little pocket wizard. These are point and shoot guns and I would never sell mine.

Especially since you have to hold the gun sideways when you shoot it in the D. Harder to shoot that way but you look cool doing it.... :D
 
Picked up a 7 round extended mag for the Sig. Really think the trigger is much more to my liking than the LCP's long pull. Now I need to find time for another visit to the range. For those that still like the LCP I'm happy for you, nice little gun but in the long run it just was not right for me.
 
I want to get a LCP but id like to fire one first.I had a glock 42 and it was to small and hard to shoot with I kept pulling it off to the left.so I moved it on down the line.

Glocks will shoot to the left (if right handed) every time if you try to use your finger tip to press the trigger. I use almost the first bend of my trigger finger like I shoot my double action revolvers. It is not a target pistol with a light trigger, it is a combat pistol with a somewhat heavy trigger and a fair amount of overtravel.
 
The LCP is even smaller than the Glock42. The Glock was too big for my front pocket.
A week after I received my LCP, I found the 32 ACP Beretta Bobcat online. Wish now I had waited and bought that one. It has the pop-up barrel, easier on recoil and no slides to work. Just load the magazine and use the pop-up feature to load one in the chamber.

That one is coming to my gun safe in the next year. A Charter Arms 73220 Undercoverette 5-rd 32H&R revolver will eventually find my wife. Ruger has a .32 in Mag. But my wife wants soft recoil, more-so than myself. Ruger does not recommend S&W lighter loads in .32
 
Glocks will shoot to the left (if right handed) every time if you try to use your finger tip to press the trigger. I use almost the first bend of my trigger finger like I shoot my double action revolvers. It is not a target pistol with a light trigger, it is a combat pistol with a somewhat heavy trigger and a fair amount of overtravel.[/quote]

Excellent point on trigger finger position. I do use just the tip of finger with lcp cause I was dragging the trigger guard if I fed more finger thru it. Had to really focus on pull to keep from moving pistol off poa. Pull sensation of finger on trigger to sensation of grip in web of hand. Became subconscious for me pretty quick. Not righteously pushing my lcp solution. Just putting it out there....

Interestingly enough, I can shoot my gen 1 all day, no probs. It's the little changes in the gen 3 trigger that make me hurt and literally bleed after a box. Back to the drawing board (or get a Glock or another Sig?)
 
I have the LCP/laser version, laser went dim on me after one range session. I thought about returning it to Ruger but to be honest don't use the laser at all, its a belly gun. For me that means I'm shooting the bad guy at 5 yards or less and that's pushing it. I can pull from my front pocket or ankle holster and shoot without aiming and without the need of a laser. JMHO YMMV
 
I would return the laser, if it's defective. It is certainly needed in shot placements of being physically assaulted and an awkward shot is needed.

Your life may someday depend on that laser placement. I would get it fixed and get proficient using it in different positions, like being tilted on one leg - being bentover - being forced to one knee - having your arm(s) pinned 50-75%, when all you can move are your wrists and hand.....etc.....etc....etc.
 
As long as we are talking about LCPs and lasers here is what I did to my homemade splatter target yesterday. I really do like this laser.

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joemsj51, I have the bobcat 32 acp it is sweet. I carried it backup at my old police dept. I agree I like the tip up barrel feature.
 
joemsj51 said:
Here in Michigan, should you shoot someone, you better have a darn good explanation on why you chose to do so at 25'. You better prove your life was in imminent danger that far away. These are point and shoot guns and I would never sell mine.
There is a lot of wisdom to those words. For some time I have been concerned that I might make a mistake in judgment in using my pocket pistol. Accordingly, I'm very careful where I go, I carry a clear plastic covered $10 bill that is available if a perp should demand money. I also carry a decoy wallet with $40-$50 in it with a number of business cards made to look like someone's wallet. I have determined that the extraordinary stress and legal expense of dealing with a shooting makes it well worth avoiding. I still carry my little 380 in case there is a situation which I simply cannot avoid, like someone trying to stuff me in my car trunk. In that case, six rounds of gold dot.380 would be a good option. The LCP or in my case, Kel-Tec is just perfect to carry in the pocket for that unlikely event.
 
I have the LC380 with the LaserLyte and really like it. I just love my Bersa Thunder 380 with the Crimson Trace laser more. :lol:
 
Nano65 said:
As long as we are talking about LCPs and lasers here is what I did to my homemade splatter target yesterday. I really do like this laser.

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What I found with the LC380 is that pulling the trigger on such a light weapon cause it to pull a little to the right. That would even be worse on the LCP. I have set my laser to compensate for that pull.
 
My LC9s is my primary carry gun but when I need to have a REALLY small gun, I carry my LCP with its Crimson Trace laser. I too found that the LCP (for me) was very difficult to fire accurately even at a 5 yard distance (which to me is about as far as I would likely ever need to shoot this gun) but with the Laser I can do fairly well. It was such a low cost gun and will not appreciate because millions of them have been sold so I would not part with it for the very few bucks I would get for it. Even if I don't carry it more than a few times a year its worth it, to me, to hold onto this gun.
 
joemsj51 said:
Sturgis270 said:
First off let me state that I am well aware the LCP is not by any means any thing more than a close in weapon. I liked the way it carried easily in my pocket. My problem was hitting a target at 25'.

Here in Michigan, should you shoot someone, you better have a darn good explanation on why you chose to do so at 25'. You better prove your life was in imminent danger that far away from the bad guy.............

No offense to you personally, but I hear folks say that sort of thing a lot. To date, not a one that I've asked has been able to reference an actual Law which limits the use of deadly force to any certain distance.

Just sayin'.

DGW
 
You better have a good reason,. when asked on why you shot that gun at the distances you're discussing. It will be rare for you to shoot at long distances and be held commendable for it. Even cops in gun battles hardly-ever shoot at those-type distances.

Here in Michigan, we do not shoot our guns unless we are in imminent danger and it will be rare where imminent occurs at the distances being described here. Here, we are taught to take cover at those-type distances and use the cell-phone for added police protection.

We are not supposed to be the police. We are not to act like them.
 
After posting on this thread earlier, I realized it had been quite a long time since I had actually fired my LCP, and if nothing else, I probably should be shooting the rounds that have been sitting in this gun for the last year or so and put in some fresh ammo. So I went to the range yesterday. I will admit that I had almost forgotten how unpleasant this gun is to shoot with decent self defense ammo, and how even with the Crimson Trace laser the long, long trigger pull makes shooting this gun accurately almost too much for me. I practiced at 3 yards with good groups, 5 yards with sort of acceptable grouping, and 7 yards with mixed results. By the time I had fired a total of about 30 rounds my hand was hurting and my accuracy in the toilet.

I'm not quite ready to call it quits with the LCP for the reasons I stated in my earlier post, but I think that I will carry it ONLY when no other carry gun is feasible due to my clothing, the weather or any other factor. My LC9s is only slightly larger, and carries a much more effective caliber round, more capacity, and more importantly, I can shoot it accurately for self defense purposes very comfortably out to about 10 yards.
 

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