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Watching a Wagontrain rerun and they showed a calandar from 1848. They were fighting the Indians with Colt percussion revolvers. Had belts with cartridges installed in the loops. Someone else had a lever action.
I also noticed that in Tales of Wells Fargo the 'hero' arrives in town by stage or train but always rides the same horse with the "blaze".
 
It's Hollyweird. In "Pony Express" (1953) Buffalo Bill Cody (Charlton Heston) and Wild Bill Hickock (Forrest Tucker) are in 1861 fighting Indians and California secessionists using Colt SAAs and Winchester 73s. Buffalo Bill was born in 1846.
 
TV is right up there with Facebook and Twitter as far as facts go.
 
Okay. Here we are gray haired old farts complaining about mistakes on 1950's westerns. But, did we even notice when we were lying on our bellies watching the small black and white TV's of our youth?
 
When I was 5 or 6 I watched "Captain Midnight", I realized his plane, the Silver Dart, was the Douglas Skyrocket.
 
Some stories that put a real effort into reflecting the Old West were "Gunsmoke", most of John Wayne's movies, and the comic strip "Rick O'Shay".

In "Rio Lobo", John Wayne used a single action army revolver and a 1892 Winchester when the movie was set in the 1866 time period.
 
blackhawknj said:
When I was 5 or 6 I watched "Captain Midnight", I realized his plane, the Silver Dart, was the Douglas Skyrocket.

Remember Grumman Skyrocket? That was the Blackhawks airplane.

Bob Wright
 
blackhawknj said:
When I was 5 or 6 I watched "Captain Midnight", I realized his plane, the Silver Dart, was the Douglas Skyrocket.


When I was a kid, Buck Rogers' "spaceship" was made from cardboard, and the propulsion gasses seen was cigarette smoke that went straight up (at a 90-degree angle) when they exited the "rocket motor". :roll: :roll:


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pete44ru said:
When I was a kid, Buck Rogers' "spaceship" was made from cardboard, and the propulsion gasses seen was cigarette smoke that went straight up (at a 90-degree angle) when they exited the "rocket motor". :roll: :roll:



Pretty much like Captain Video, although his ship may have been a little plastic toy.

:mrgreen:
 
Even as a little kid I wondered about how many rounds the Lone Ranger could fire out of his six-shooter without reloading. And in shows like the Lone Ranger, the Cisco Kid and others, no one ever dies, and the good guys can shoot the gun out of the bad guys hands while riding at full gallop on their horse. I specifically remember at about age 8, after seeing in about 1951 or so a dead body in the streets of Brooklyn, NY near where I lived, with police and press all around, and hearing that it was a criminal shot and killed by a cop I thought "how could that happen? Why didn't he just shoot the bad guy in the hand?". My Dad turned to me and said "don't believe everything you see on television".
 
Jeepnik said:
Okay. Here we are gray haired old farts complaining about mistakes on 1950's westerns. But, did we even notice when we were lying on our bellies watching the small black and white TV's of our youth?

I am still trying to perfect the "stab-shoot" method that Joe Mannix used to shoot bad guys 100 yards away with his snubbie.

And I always had a hard time believing every planet the Robinsons landed on had cactus and ground smooth enough for Robot to travel around on with flat-bottomed caterpillar tracks. C'mon! Why didn't he have a more terrain-adaptable system? Totally blew it for me.

But I still want a phaser rifle. (I know Romulan disruptors are just a fantasy. I'm not a fool.) 8)
 
coach said:
I’ve seen any number of SAA at full cock that don’t appear to have a firing pin.

A lot of those 1950s westerns used the Great Western single action and those had frame mounted firing pins. Matt Dillon carried one.
 
mohavesam said:
Jeepnik said:
Okay. Here we are gray haired old farts complaining about mistakes on 1950's westerns. But, did we even notice when we were lying on our bellies watching the small black and white TV's of our youth?

I am still trying to perfect the "stab-shoot" method that Joe Mannix used to shoot bad guys 100 yards away with his snubbie.

And I always had a hard time believing every planet the Robinsons landed on had cactus and ground smooth enough for Robot to travel around on with flat-bottomed caterpillar tracks. C'mon! Why didn't he have a more terrain-adaptable system? Totally blew it for me.

But I still want a phaser rifle. (I know Romulan disruptors are just a fantasy. I'm not a fool.) 8)

Meh, I'm still holding out for a phased plasma rifle in the forty-megawatt range.

Although one of the pulse rifles from David Weber's Honor Harrington novels - sort of a hand-held railgun using grav drivers instead of magnets to accelerate 5mm tungsten darts, with a 4000 m/sec velocity, also available in pistol and carbine versions - would do in a pinch. Go, physics! :wink:
 
Here's a funny one that was on "Trackdown" this morning. Bunch of bad guys together. One young guy starts getting rowdy and I think it was his old man says "something like, that hair trigger is going to get you into trouble" or something like that. The old man makes him drop his gun belt so he takes it off and throws the belt down and the gun goes off. Keep in mind that this is a SSA that went off because of a supposedly hair trigger.

Well, the story goes on and he and his brother are off checking something out and there are shots fired and his brother is killed. He blames it on some ambush. So Hoby (the marshal) gets involved. Hoby finally gets him to admit that he accidentally shot his brother with that hair trigger gun. He finally takes off his gun belt and throws it down at Hoby's feet and guess what? Yep, that hair trigger SAA goes off again.

So, I guess we're led to believe that an SAA with a hair trigger cocks the hammer by itself and goes off when thrown to the ground. That had to be what we're supposed to believe because they did it twice. :mrgreen: :roll: :mrgreen: :roll:

It'll take a real whopper to beat that one.
 
Fox Mike said:
In Open Range Kevin Costner fires nine shots from one revolver by fanning it.

On "Renegade" Reno Rains can better that. He can fire 14 shots out of the little pistol gripped pump shot gun he carries. Saw that with my own eyes.
 
Luke McCain fires 10 shots out of his 9 round Winchester M1892 (The show is set in the 1880s). That was done to synchronize with the music.
 
blackhawknj said:
Luke McCain fires 10 shots out of his 9 round Winchester M1892 (The show is set in the 1880s). That was done to synchronize with the music.

There was a Youtube video that somebody made. It had McCain firing what must have been over a hundred shots. It was funny.
 
I am trying to recall correctly, but wasn’t there a concerted effort to accurately depict the firearms used in “Quigley Down Under”? Seemed the Aussie’s all had cap and ball revolvers but don’t recall their long guns. I think Selleck tries to present authenticity in his roles.

This not TV for sure, but back in the day, movies were just as inaccurate.

Dave
 
One I remember is a Van Damme movie called Hard Target. In the movie, the bad guy shoots people with a T/C Contender of unknown caliber at some impressive distances. In one of the close ups of the gun, it has zero sights on it! I guess that makes it all the more impressive! Lol. Lots of funny things in the movies with guns.
 
gunman42782 said:
One I remember is a Van Damme movie called Hard Target. In the movie, the bad guy shoots people with a T/C Contender of unknown caliber at some impressive distances. In one of the close ups of the gun, it has zero sights on it! I guess that makes it all the more impressive! Lol. Lots of funny things in the movies with guns.

He's Van Damme! The only one who can out Van Damme, Van Damme is Chuck Norris.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3f3okHmWK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dndHQzZPH0Q
 

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