Mini 14 as militia weapon

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Tim_the_Bald

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Here is a purely hypothetical question I am throwing out to get opinions.
A guy in some country far far away joins a militia and uses his Mini 14 as his primary weapon. Is the Mini 14 up to this?
 
I personally prefer the Mini-14 to the AR-15, though will concede the AR is the more accurate. Just always liked the look, feel, and handling of the Mini better. Have owned several of each type and no problems with any.
 
The only thing "wrong" (in my opinion) with the Mini-14 is the caliber. The Mini-30 is a better weapon. (again, IMO)
 
Better than nothing, at least until you found some dead guy willing to trade your mini for his AK.

Not that I worship at the temple of Kalashnikov or anything, but they definitely have the market pretty much dominated. Great availability in "far far away" countries.
 
tomiswho":20ir15a3 said:
Heck, the original A-Team used 'em. I don't know about the new A-Team.
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:D :D :D :D :D

I was thinking this same thing, and yes it's in the new movie too. When I saw it in the new movie it did take me back a few years.

K-Mini-14 GBF . . . Mini-14 Stainless Folding Stock
 
If I remember correctly the Ruger Ranch rifle version was actually developed so that Ruger could get a contract with the French Government. I think they also did get the contract, so they were used out there and probably still are.

OK now no jokes about the French Army LOL
 
Wel, SteelShooter, You bet the Mini 14 Ranch Rifle is sturdy enough to go on working after it's dropped. (No slur meant of the French, of course!) :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
I plan on taking one of my mini 14s as a backup when we go to Ft. Hancock Texas where the mexican drug cartels have invaded American soil, even though osamabama and Napolitano say our borders are secure. I will also be taking my 2 best .45 and my 2 favorite AR10s. the mini will work in a pinch.
 
Gabe Suarez has a new DVD comiing out this summer that would be right up your alley.
 
I had never heard of Gabe Suarez til now, lots of things said about him. I admire him for his beliefs though. I follow Al Garza, the co-founder of the Minutemen project. he has now left that and started the Patriot Coalition, check out www.Patriotscoalition.com there is also a Patriot Coalition without the S after Patriot. Ft. Hancock is on the mexican border but now the drug cartels control that area, sad that American soil is now under their control and our socialist gov't denies it. our military presence is token and a joke to appease our mexican superiors. Shannon McGauley and the Texas Minutemen are also mounting some oppostion, my fear is that when push comes to shove and something happens, our socialist AG Holder will prosecute us for protecting America. I will have my mini 14 for up close if needed, but I will be prepared since our gov't has decided not to. I am an old soldier, havent fired a shot in anger in almost 40 years, but am tired of getting run over by illegal aliens. wish some of yall would join us, ...if you love America, you cant let this invasion go on.
 
Felix,

it is odd that no one sees the real solution to the Mexican / American boarder problem. The reason these folks are sneaking over is because they can get better jobs and more work here... in America... better pay and such.

What we need to do is fix Mexico... minimum wage... better working conditions... eradicate the drug cartels and over turn their corrupt political and legal systems...

Simple way... invade mexico and make it part of the U.S.A.

We don't need to protect the boarder we just need to eliminate it.
 
Blume357... that is possibly the most illogical, unethical, imperialistic thing I've ever read on this forum. Why stop once we've conquered and absorbed Mexico? We could move onto China next. Peace and prosperity through world domination. Let's just stick to cleaning house from within... world conquest is really not the American way, as some may believe.

Blume, I have a feeling you'll be all for a one world government in due time.

(Nothing personal of course :wink:, but holy moly dude!)
 
why would we want anything with a country that is run by drug cartels who have killed thousands, mainly along our border? they are a failed country, a failed society and sooner or later that violence is gonna spread into the American Heartland and maybe people will wake up. I am not buying any more guns right now, but lots of ammo in .308,.223, .45 and 12 gauge buckshot. like I said the citizens of Ft. Hancock and the ranchers in that area now are pretty much unprotected by the BP. the cartels have control of that area but somehow our liberal press wont say much about it. ossamabama wants amnesty for illegals which translates in a more liberal left wing voting block and it will give the green light for more illegals to come over to take advantage. ethnic problems are in the future and I will have my essential firearms and ammo. :!:
 
Quietdood,

I'll accept the unethical and imperialistic, but I don't on the illogical. It seems logical to me...

you got a nest of snake over on your neighbor's land and he won't do anything about them coming on your property....and this has been going on for years... what do you do, go to the United Nations? Yea, that really works.
 
Pal Val, my group of fellow Patriots carry mainly AR 10 & 15s, AKs and Mini 14 &30s. the discussion was about the mini 14 for sure. not the most accurate rifle except for the newer series 580 & 581s. our concerns are at the mexico border cause there are areas of Texas, Arizona and New Mexico that literally are under the control of the drug runners. You dont see Canadians running across the border cause they are a successful country and society. I live 200 miles from the border (average) and we have people traffickers, drug traffickers all over our towns and cities. they know law enforcement dont want to mess with them, they drive on our streets with no licenses, insurance etc. I know at least one restaurant I used to eat at that the owner told a friend of mine that she "would like to poison my food" because of my leadership in a Patriotic organization that is opposed to illegal immigration. I am ALWAYS armed and the people I am concerned about are from our southern border not northern border. And YES, I love to carry my mini 14 Tactical .223 cause it reminds me of my favorite combat rifle I ever carried, the M-14.
 
Felix, If I were to arm myself against well-armed bandits, I would leave the .223 guns to the smaller-framed people and "carry enough gun". How about the M-1A (Civilian version of the M-14)? That would put a worry on the "bandidos".
 
Also, I'l all for patriotic, and defending our citizens in the border areas is part of that, but I would make sure not to cross the line into "vigilante". It's a a really thin line.

Crossing the vigilante line turns a patriot into just one more bandido.
 
Pal Val, when I am on the border,(and I have lived in the area 56 years) I carry at least an AR10 and a .45 acp, ALWAYS. I know our current leadership will prosecute an American in a heartbeat, just think of our valiant BPs Ramos and Compeon, a few weeks ago a BP shooting and killing a known young trafficker with a record a mile long chunking rocks at a BP. the leftist administration that wants open borders for illegals that will get amnesty and become leftist voters is no secret. years ago in 1836 Gallant Texans of which I am a descendant of drew a line in the sand at the Alamo, now we must draw that line again and defend it, now we defend Texas, the U.S. and our identity as a nation. if I am called a vigilante so be it, I will be sure that I am near a BP and at their aid and I will have my new Scout Squad .308 that I just got and my trusty .45 at my side, I will fight and if need be die to keep America the proud country it is. and again I say my reliable mini 14 will be nearby. the liberal press will make us look stupid red neck, but look around, one of our great leaders in this fight is Al Garza, of mexican descent, Viet Nam vet, co founder of the Minutemen, now with PatriotsCoalition, just because your last name is spanish dont make you pro illegal immigration. the govt wont defend us, Patriotic Americans will do the job, we will not live in a failed nation. Pennsylvania is a long way from here, but you cant tell me yall aint infested with illegals and their anchor babies sucking the life out of our country.
 
Felix, I'm not questioning your motives. I'm not going to defend illegal immigrants. BTW, my last name is Spanish too. If you want to see an invasion, you should see what Puerto Rico gets from the sea. I don't mean fish! The invasion coming in boats makes the Mexicans in Texas look like tourists.

What I caution is not to let your actions get to the point of opening a door for the government to go in and prosecute you. It's not a remote possibility, if you ask the Ruby Ridge fellows. You can stick to your rules of engagement without giving an inch.
 
To venture into changing the subject again....

this whole boarder problem with drug runners and the violence sure sounds familiar to me.

It is ironic how soon people forget and just don't seem to be able to learn from history.

The 'my' solution with the illegal drug trade and corresponding violence that naturally comes with this is just too simple and does not include invading Mexico. Just make the stuff legal and tax and control it...
 
OK, to bring this discussion back on track, read this from the AWRM forum:

You are absolutely right - it would be dumb to cut someone down and make fun on someone's choices.

However - to suggest the Mini-14 would be a viable option for a MBR would be a serious disservice too.

As stated by many posters to this thread - the Mini14 is a GREAT plinker - but it is NOT a MBR.

The Mini14 is not fixable by you and me. We *HAVE* to send it back to Ruger for any major parts failures.

Picture this - you are in a Katrina event - and your hammer on your Mini14 breaks. Whatcha gonna do??? Or what if your sear breaks?? How about the trigger?? Or what about the firing pin??

If you have an AR or an AK or a FN or a G3 - in other words a REAL fighting rifle - you can fix it with the parts you have been storing for just such an event.

However with the Mini14 - you MUST send it back to Ruger for them to fix. Kinda tough after a societal breakdown.

So that is strike one on the Ruger - you can't fix it.

Strike two is it is not a durable rifle. While active duty I was part of a team that helped train members of the Bermuda Regiment. They were armed with Mini14 GB model.

Within 2 weeks EVERY rifle was down for one reason or another.

Pat Rogers has never had a Mini14 make it through a demanding 4 day carbine course.

James Yeager of Tactical Response has a very poor opinion of Mini14's due to many failures witnessed by him of the Mini14 in his Fighting Rifle classes.

Strike Three is the magazines. The ONLY magazines that can be relied upon are Factory Ruger magazines. Sure - you hear that your friend's-brother's-neighbor's-cousin's-barber's-relative in some other state once bought an aftermarket magazine that he swears is reliable with the one time he shot it with 2 rounds - but - the fact is only Ruger OEM mags are worth betting your life on. Sad fact is that a GOOD price for Ruger Factory mags is $30 each. Considering one should have a minimum of 30 mags for his MBR - that is a spendy proposition.

Now - ammo. The Mini14 is chambered for the .223 - not the 5.56mm.

Check out this link:
http://le.atk.com/pdf/223VS556.pdf

OR this one:
http://www.thegunzone.com/556v223.html

Or this one:
http://www.fulton-armory.com/556-vs-223-Chambers.htm

Ruger Mini14 - great plinker - NOT a fighting rifle.

cheers

tire iron
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The entire thread can be found here:

http://www.awrm.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php? ... 000642;p=2
 
My biggest fear when I go to sleep at night is that the Mini 14 Militias will take over out great Nation... We'd be completely defenseless! They'd take us over faster than the Russian's did in Red Dawn.
:)
 
Fossils and guns, I think you are trying to make a point but it is not clear. Who, exactly are the "Mini14 militia" you are speaking of?

You also say "we'd be..." and "take us Over". Exactly who is "we" and "us"? Robert
 
felix cortinas":3khtk6m4 said:
I had never heard of Gabe Suarez til now, lots of things said about him. I admire him for his beliefs though. I follow Al Garza, the co-founder of the Minutemen project. he has now left that and started the Patriot Coalition, check out www.Patriotscoalition.com there is also a Patriot Coalition without the S after Patriot. Ft. Hancock is on the mexican border but now the drug cartels control that area, sad that American soil is now under their control and our socialist gov't denies it. our military presence is token and a joke to appease our mexican superiors. Shannon McGauley and the Texas Minutemen are also mounting some oppostion, my fear is that when push comes to shove and something happens, our socialist AG Holder will prosecute us for protecting America. I will have my mini 14 for up close if needed, but I will be prepared since our gov't has decided not to. I am an old soldier, havent fired a shot in anger in almost 40 years, but am tired of getting run over by illegal aliens. wish some of yall would join us, ...if you love America, you cant let this invasion go on.
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I'm way up in Virginia on the coast - too far away to help on the southern border.
Guess I'll have to settle for becoming a coast watcher.
Being 62 & in moderately poor health sure does limit your options.

PS: I'll keep my Mini 14 close by, just in case!

:cry: :cry: :cry:
 
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