Mark iv barrel turned?

[8strings8rounds]

Hi, first post here!
I just want to know if anyone else here has experienced this on a mark iv..
I purchased a new mark iv Hunter last week and later found that the barrel appeared to be rotated slightly to the right in the receiver.
It has been sent off back to Ruger, and I am patiently waiting to hear what they say.

 

[recumbent]

I have seen this just once.
Ruger will take care of it.

 

[AzShooter1]

I had it happen twice on my Mark IV 22/45 Lite. The barrel nut came loose and the barrel would rotate and even move back and forth. I sent it back to Ruger and it was repaired in one day. Super service. I think I was forcing the compensator on too tight.

 

[SGW Gunsmith]

I have seen this just once.
Ruger will take care of it.

recumbent...............good to see that you're posting once again!

 

[Mobuck]

Another reason I'll NOT be owning a MKIV

 

[8strings8rounds]

Another reason I'll NOT be owning a MKIV

Just to be fair, I have found with research that this was far more common in the IIs and IIIs. Especially in the Standard models.

 

[8strings8rounds]

I had it happen twice on my Mark IV 22/45 Lite. The barrel nut came loose and the barrel would rotate and even move back and forth. I sent it back to Ruger and it was repaired in one day. Super service. I think I was forcing the compensator on too tight.

The barrels on the Lite are very different from the not-so lite. This one came from the factory turned.
I'm still waiting to hear from them- hopefully early this week.

 

[Mobuck]

"Just to be fair, I have found with research that this was far more common in the IIs and IIIs. Especially in the Standard models."

I haven't had a "standard model" for maybe 15 years but currently have 1/2 dozen II & III and haven't found this was "common". When discussing the option of having muzzle threading performed on the II & III series, the universal comment from gunsmiths/machinists was "so tight you can't unscrew it" when asking about barrel removal for threading.
Maybe I didn't research the right sources.
Truthfully, I was referencing the "barrel nut" comment which apparently concerns only the LITE series(?).

 

[8strings8rounds]

"Just to be fair, I have found with research that this was far more common in the IIs and IIIs. Especially in the Standard models."

I haven't had a "standard model" for maybe 15 years but currently have 1/2 dozen II & III and haven't found this was "common". When discussing the option of having muzzle threading performed on the II & III series, the universal comment from gunsmiths/machinists was "so tight you can't unscrew it" when asking about barrel removal for threading.
Maybe I didn't research the right sources.
Truthfully, I was referencing the "barrel nut" comment which apparently concerns only the LITE series(?).

I apologize, I figured you were replying to my OP as there wasn't a reference.
Perhaps "common" wasn't the best word to use. Especially as I'm not trying to start an argument, but one of the guys in another forum said on the IIs and IIIs, whenever one did have a rotated barrel, it was always to the right as my IV was. So looking at my friends mark II, we found the barrel to be slightly rotated, but not as much as mine was. Given that I figured, "hmm, must be true."
I think it was the same guy who mentioned the standards.

 

[Mobuck]

I also admit having not fully understood the post. Yes, there do seem to be several instances of Ruger sending out handguns(mostly revolvers) with improperly 'clocked" barrels. I(possibly misinformed) understood the 22 pistol barrels were screwed into the frame and the front sight holes drilled after torquing. In this case, it's impossible to have off center sights unless a machine or operator messed up.
Someone please correct me if I'm off center.

 

[8strings8rounds]

You know, I have used "clocked" when talking about revolvers, but it never occurred to me to use it here.. That would have made more sense.
I had only assumed mine was clocked improperly because the front sight hole aligns perfectly with the top flute of the Hunter barrel, and figured that was done before it was screwed into the receiver body. Oh well, hopefully I get it straightened out either way.

 

[Mobuck]

I'm not a Ruger expert, I just shoot them(at times fairly well).

 

[recumbent]

I have seen this just once.
Ruger will take care of it.

recumbent...............good to see that you're posting once again!

Thanks

 

[rugerguy]

when you say "off to the right" is it the barrel itself? in relation to the receiver tube ( sights did not align, front to rear) or just the entire upper receiver assembly, barrel and receiver together..........setting in the grip frame, askew ( tilted) off to the right ???
we cannot count on one hand "seeing" any Marks ( and standard) autos that the barrel was "off" ewither way, in relation to the sights, they NORMALLY< always "line up"......and I've seen, had, bought and sold MORE than my share of Ruger 22 semi autos as well as having worked on them in three different shops over the years since the late 1960's...........hhhhmmmm interesting.........all the MK IV we've looked at so far looked "good", a bit pricy, BUT "good"......... 8) :roll: :wink:

 

[8strings8rounds]

It appeared that the barrel was rotated in the receiver tube. The front sight aligned perfectly (as far as I could tell) with the top flute of the barrel- and looking at the end of the flute closest to the receiver, it was off center from the scope base mounting holes (assuming they were top dead center)
Unfortunately, the gun I purchased was not the one I looked at in the shop. I asked for one still in the box and then didn't look at it until I got home- not saying I would have caught the issue before transfer, but I noticed it so quickly when I got home that I was instantly upset with myself for not looking at it prior.

I apologize if my description doesn't make great sense, I have pictures, but have no clue how to load them on here.

 

[jstanfield103]

Ruger will fix it is correct. Give them a call

 

[8strings8rounds]

Good news! Ruger agreed that it wasn't right and is sending me (my ffl) a new pistol!
I'll see it, hopefully, mid week.

 

[8strings8rounds]

Update.
After a few calls into Ruger, I finally got them to send the replacement pistol. It arrived this Friday.
The barrel is clocked exactly the same way as the one I sent them.
The sales guy and I went through the other Rugers in the case and found that they all appeared to be this way- the mark ivs, anyway. Not the 22/45s.
He asked me if I wanted to send it back and I said no. I received the pistol, brought it home and remedied it myself.
What bugs me is that Ruger acknowledged it was incorrect and destroyed my original pistol because of it, then sent one exactly the same. What's even better? The replacement pistols SN is 10000 less (older) than the one I had sent in.. So there's potentially a lot of units exhibiting this issue.
Now, realistically, the pistol functions fine and shot straight.. though the rear sight was cranked to the right to compensate for the tilt in the front.. And I think this is all they look for before they send them out?
Anyway. My remedy? I removed the front sight and filed the bottom edge until it sat straight up and down on the barrel when I screwed it down. My rear sight is nearly centered now, and I'm moving on with it as it is (was)