MagnetoSpeed Chrony

Iron Mike Golf

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My birthday/Christmas present arrived today and my lovely wife encouraged me to go ahead and dig in.

On Sat, I plan on taking it to the range along with my 44 Mag 7.5" Mag RH, 45 Colt 5.5" BH, and 41 Mag 6.5" BH along with a nice variety of loads. Might lash it up with Donaldjr1969's SRH and S&W M500, too.

I plan on doing a writeup on my adventures using this chrony with revolvers.llet/sensor contact happens. Also a photo essay of setting u the sensor. I'll be removing the ERH on the BHs to keep the cable and connector away from the B/C gap and will likely shim things to ensure no bullet/sensor contact happens.

I may do a few test shots out behind the garage tomorrow. At some point, I will hook it up to my in-line 50 cal, too.
 
IMG

I started off with a pellet rifle then worked up to shooting bigger calibers thru it as my nerves settled .

& NO I have`nt

If there`s 1 peice of advise I`d give to a new chrony owner it is to set the sensors far enuff away from the muzzle as to not get blast interference.

PS: mine never lets me play with my new toys early .
 
I did take it for a test drive Friday afternoon and a good workout Saturday morning. This is my first chrony. My pics to follow (maybe tomorrow) that show it installed on a RH and a BH.

Here's what I got.
From the MagnetoSpeed website:
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First off, this chrony has no downrange sensors. It has a sensor that straps onto the barrel.
From the MagnetoSpeed website:
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They call it the Bayo Unit (looks kinda like a bayonet). The flat part has two sensors in it. One near the very tip and one near the dished out section. In between is a bar magnet (strong enough to hold a steel cleaning rod). The sensors detect disturbances in the magnetic field.

I strapped it to the Redhawk and test fired 2 rounds of 44 Mag Friday afternoon. The Bayo came loose both times. The tiedown strap was misrouted through the buckle and I learned that the buckle needs to be snugged up as close to the strap slot in the Bayo as the strap can get it. Pics tomorrow will illustrate what I am talking about. I played with it some more Friday evening and figured out what to do to secure it. I also test fit it to my 5.5 inch Blackhawk. I removed the ERH on the BH.

The computer is small, about the size of a billfold. It runs off 4 x AAA batteries. It is connected to the Bayo by a simple audio cable with 1/8" jacks on each end. You get 2 cables, one of which is a retractable sort. A 6' cable headphone cable is $6 at Radio Shack. Plugging the cable into the computer turns it on. Data is saved onto a micro SD card. You get a full sized SD card adapter. The display is LCD and it has a backlight. You can turn that off or on. The display has enough pixels to show most of the string stats and the last 3 (I think) shots. You have to pick between SD or ES to be displayed.

There are presets for bullet type and you can define a custom setup. For cast, I used a sensor sensitivity of 6 (out of 15 steps, 1 being most sensitive). That seemed to work just fine. Presets are Copper jacket/lead core, copper jacket/steel core, and lead slug.

Saturday: I started with the RH. I needed to check the cable connector, Bayo position and strap tension after each round. A couple of times, recoil made the Bayo end of the cable come out, but there was only one time when I shot shot data because of that. I will look into finding a right-angle connector and duct tape in place.

I discovered the RH barrel is slightly tapered. When I mount the Bayo, I use a cleaning rod to make sure the sensor deck is parallel to the bore and out of the bullet path. With the RH, the tip hit the rod. I used some rubber electical splicing tape to make a shim (a single layer of tape was enough) at the muzzle end of the v-block on the Bayo. The BH did not need shimming. I used the thin v-block for all guns. They provide a thick v-block for thin-walled barrels. The sensors need to be close to the bullet.

After shooting several loads in the RH and BH, Donaldjr1969 graciously lent me his M500 S&W and 5 rounds each of 2 different loadings. His is the 8 3/4" barrel with full lug and comp. I tried mounting the Bayo with the v-block under the lug. I felt that was too far from the bullet path, so I mounted the Bayo at 9 o'clock. I selected Copper jacket/lead core as the bullet setup. No data on first shot, likely because of the barrel wall thickness. I did a custom setup with sensitivity 7. Got data then.

The data saved to a single csv file and I opened it right up in Excel. It took me about two minutes from gun in case and chrony in box to being set up for shooting. No cease fire needed. I am real happy.

Next trip, I will try it on my Rossi M92. This unit won't work on a semi-automatic pistol where the slide encloses the barrel. I have not tried it, but the manufacturer says it won't pick up air gun pellets. I will try it with my .22 cal air rifle anyways, just because.
 
Iron Mike Golf said:
This unit won't work on a semi-automatic pistol where the slide encloses the barrel.
Jeff, I wonder if some form of clamp could be fabricated to mount it on a semi-auto that has a picatinny rail?
 
Don, part of the challenge is the need to get the sensor close enough to the flight path. We can do an experiment with the M500. I'm thinking mounting the Bayo on the underside of the lug would approximate the distance of a frame rail. For some guns, it may be more. Do me a favor: measure from the lower edge of the bor to the bottom lug surface.
 
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GP100man said:
IMG

I started off with a pellet rifle then worked up to shooting bigger calibers thru it as my nerves settled .

& NO I have`nt

If there`s 1 peice of advise I`d give to a new chrony owner it is to set the sensors far enuff away from the muzzle as to not get blast interference.

PS: mine never lets me play with my new toys early .
The nice thing about the magnetospeed chrony is that it is unaffected by muzzle blast. In fact, it attaches to the barrel at the muzzle.

Which is its drawback, too. It has to be mounted on the gun. But that also makes it ALMOST (edited to upper case and boldface after reading the post after this one, thanks, Iron Mike Golf) impossible to shoot it.

Lost Sheep
 
Lost Sheep said:
...Which is its drawback, too. It has to be mounted on the gun. But that also makes it almost impossible to shoot it.

Lost Sheep

You know, I really and truly thought the Redhawk had a straight cylinder barrel contour. It doesn't. Had I not checked with a cleaning rod in the bore, I would have shot the far sensor off with my first round.

I also experimented with different ways to check for the sensor deck being parallel. MagnetoSpeed recommends sighting down the bore. Can't do that with a revolver and I am not gonna try using a dental mirror. I laid a pistol cleaning rod and a steel ruler on the sensor deck. The magnet held them in place ad I thought, "Cool". THen I realized I still couldn't tell if the tip was in the flight path or just close.

A muzzle loader ram rod might be easier to use: stiffer and easier to get against the barrel wall on the edge closest to the sensor deck.

Shooting some pics of this baby on some revolvers in the morning. Might shoot a 50 cal round from the inline, too.
 
My personal experience with my own MagnetoSpeed has been very good. It is invaluable at most indoor ranges, and anywhere getting a range to go cold is difficult. I believe its accurate, in that there's a close correlation between my Magneto Speed and my "regular" CED chrono. You don't need to have the sun shining, or have a complicated infrared setup indoors.

The downsides for me were simple. You can't easily attach it to a semi-auto pistol, and when attached to my rifles it changes the aimpoint slightly. Sort of the effect of firing a rifle with the barrel resting directly on a hard surface. Those two things limit its utility for me.

But if you can attach it to your weapons, and certainly if you are shooting indoors, it is invaluable in working up loads. It loses some value when moving to accuracy, and for that reason I wouldn't use it to monitor a normal shooting session. YMMV.
 
I`d never seen 1 , WOW a shoot proof chrony , well almost !!

I can see it shining in the rifle world !

No lighting issues or muzzle blast problems .

& I`d probably have a little more hair if I`d seen 1 of these .

Very interesting thread on the magneto system !!!
 
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