LCP and +P

[writwing]

Will it handle the +P?

 

[mikep048]

Read the manual. No.

 

[Cholo]

Probably, for a little while. I took some of the hot Buffalo Bore ammo out to shoot in my NAA .380. I was wiping dripping blood off my finger and gun. It was the most brutal ammo I've ever shot out of any gun. I then looked at the lightweight LCP I'd brought with me. I didn't even have to think twice that that kind of power is meant for guns more substantial than my beloved LCP.

YMMV...

 

[carbonyl]

The RUGER®LCPTMpistols are chambered for the .380 Auto cartridge. Do
not attempt to load any other cartridges into the magazine or chamber of the
pistol. Do not use “+P” ammunition.
The RUGER®LCPTMpistols are compatible with standard factory ammunition
loaded to U.S. Industry Standards, including hollow-point loads loaded in brass
or aluminum cases. No .380 Auto ammunition manufactured in accordance with
NATO, U.S., SAAMI, or CIP standards is known to be beyond the design limits or
known not to function in these pistols. Do not use “+P” ammunition.

 

[writwing]

Read the manual. No.

Manual does not state that it will not handle +P it merely states not to use it. Big difference.

 

[revhigh]

Read the manual. No.

Manual does not state that it will not handle +P it merely states not to use it. Big difference.

LOL !! Yeah ... REAL big difference ....


REV

 

[hittman]

Big difference.

How do you figure that?

When mom told me not to play with matches I figured it was because I'd burn the house down, not because it was her personal preference.

 

[carbonyl]

The SR-SERIESpistols are compatible with all factory ammunition of the
correct caliber loaded to U.S. Industry Standards, including high-velocity and
hollow-point loads, loaded in brass, aluminum, or steel cartridge cases. No 9mm
Parabellum or .40 S&W ammunition manufactured in accordance with NATO,
U.S., SAAMI, or CIP standards is known to be beyond the design limits or known
not to function in these pistols.


Now to me this means it will be OK to use +P ammunition.

 

[Blackhawk47]

The SR-SERIESpistols are compatible with all factory ammunition of the
correct caliber loaded to U.S. Industry Standards, including high-velocity and
hollow-point loads, loaded in brass, aluminum, or steel cartridge cases. No 9mm
Parabellum or .40 S&W ammunition manufactured in accordance with NATO,
U.S., SAAMI, or CIP standards is known to be beyond the design limits or known
not to function in these pistols.


Now to me this means it will be OK to use +P ammunition.

The LCP is not an SR series pistol. The LCP uses 380 acp ammunition.

 

[gasbag]

No it won't handle it and more than likely neither will your shooting hand.
I bought my LCP because it is so easy to conceal and there are times when something larger would be too uncomfortable.
It is a gas to shoot but because of it's size it can be a handful.
I wouldn't try +P if someone paid me. That and Ruger doesn't recommend it.
I think I will follow their suggestion. They might know a bit more than I do about the gun. :shock:

 

[carbonyl]

The SR-SERIESpistols are compatible with all factory ammunition of the
correct caliber loaded to U.S. Industry Standards, including high-velocity and
hollow-point loads, loaded in brass, aluminum, or steel cartridge cases. No 9mm
Parabellum or .40 S&W ammunition manufactured in accordance with NATO,
U.S., SAAMI, or CIP standards is known to be beyond the design limits or known
not to function in these pistols.


Now to me this means it will be OK to use +P ammunition.

The LCP is not an SR series pistol. The LCP uses 380 acp ammunition.

I understand it's a 380. My point is if it would handle +P it would read like the above, not like the post from its manual that states Do not use "+P" ammunition.

 

[hittman]

The LCP is not an SR series pistol.

SR9
SR40
SR1911

Not SR-LCP.

 

[writwing]

Read the manual. No.

Manual does not state that it will not handle +P it merely states not to use it. Big difference.

LOL !! Yeah ... REAL big difference ....


REV

Guess you dont know that many manufacturers do not recommend +p+ ammo even though it has been proven that the gun can in fact handle the load.

 

[Cholo]

Guess you dont know that many manufacturers do not recommend +p+ ammo even though it has been proven that the gun can in fact handle the load.

I don't understand the purpose of your thread if your not willing to take advice. In fact you're not looking for advice, you're looking for support of which you've gotten none. Go and buy some Buffalo Bore +P lead FN's like I tried in my NAA. Buy several boxes while you're at it and report back after making cartridges into empty brass.

Don't buy a used LCP from writwing...

 

[writwing]

Guess you dont know that many manufacturers do not recommend +p+ ammo even though it has been proven that the gun can in fact handle the load.

I don't understand the purpose of your thread if your not willing to take advice. In fact you're not looking for advice, you're looking for support of which you've gotten none. Go and buy some Buffalo Bore +P lead FN's like I tried in my NAA. Buy several boxes while you're at it and report back after making cartridges into empty brass.

Don't buy a used LCP from writwing...

.

Your insights, or better the lack there of, are less then useless.

 

[toysoldier]

Using +P ammo in an LCP is like putting a V-8 in a Vega. It can be done, but you won't like the results.

Size and weight restrictions on the design of the LCP mean it isn't suitable for hot loads or running hundreds of rounds a week through it. If you want to do that, why did you buy the LCP in the first place? Get a larger, heavier, all-steel pistol.

 

[writwing]

Using +P ammo in an LCP is like putting a V-8 in a Vega. It can be done, but you won't like the results.

Size and weight restrictions on the design of the LCP mean it isn't suitable for hot loads or running hundreds of rounds a week through it. If you want to do that, why did you buy the LCP in the first place? Get a larger, heavier, all-steel pistol.

It is actually quite funny to read the responses posted by those who are so eager in their attempt to prove someone wrong that they fail to understand a simple question and make erroneous assumptions.

 

[hittman]

Okay ~ you win.

Yes it will handle +P if you disregard advice from the company that manufactured it.

 

[Cholo]

To all of us who were just trying to help, let's stop beating our heads against the wall with this SA payaso. It will only feel good when we stop...

writwing aka Carnac the Magnificent :roll:

 

[carbonyl]

I’m sure Ruger knows the limits of the guns they design and manufacture. They plainly state in their manuals what ammunition they feel is correct for that model. Ruger has a great customer service reputation and I’m sure they don’t want to be fixing or replacing guns (on their dime) that were misused. OK. my last post on the subject.

 

[writwing]

To all of us who were just trying to help, let's stop beating our heads against the wall with this SA payaso. It will only feel good when we stop...

writwing aka Carnac the Magnificent :roll:

Aholo Thanks for the "help".

 

[writwing]

I’m sure Ruger knows the limits of the guns they design and manufacture. They plainly state in their manuals what ammunition they feel is correct for that model. Ruger has a great customer service reputation and I’m sure they don’t want to be fixing or replacing guns (on their dime) that were misused. OK. my last post on the subject.

The LCP manual also states:

"If the pistol is not to be used immediately, the magazine should be removed and the chamber unloaded."

Do you unload your gun when not being used immediately?


The New Vaquero manual states:

AMMUNITION (CARTRIDGES) NOTICE
WE SPECIFICALLY DISCLAIM RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY DAMAGE
OR INJURY WHATSOEVER OCCURRING IN CONNECTION WITH, OR
AS THE RESULT OF, THE USE IN RUGER REVOLVERS OF FAULTY, OR
NONSTANDARD, OR “REMANUFACTURED” OR HANDLOADED
(RELOADED) AMMUNITION, OR OF CARTRIDGES OTHER THAN
THOSE FOR WHICH THE FIREARM WAS ORIGINALLY CHAMBERED.


This is the SAME statement for the "Old Model" Vaquero. So according to your logic, both guns can take the same loads, while in fact most non-ninjas know this to be false. It also states NOT to use hand loaded ammo. Tell that to Vaquero shooters and see what their response is. Do you also think that Ruger will not handle wear/damage in the OM Vaqueros that have been loaded with hand loads, hmmmmmmmmmm?

Did it ever occur to you to perhaps a lawyer was involved in the writing of the manual? Oblivious not.

You have just been smacked down, thanks for playing.

 

[Cheesewhiz]

Hallelujah My Brothers, lay your hands on your computer monitors and pray to the almighty that when writwing goes to the range with his blessed +P ammo in his LCP, that someone is there with a camera phone so they can put it on youtube. Not that I ask for anything bad to happen O Lord, I would never do that. I just want writwing to reside with his true brothers, idiots with guns on youtube as it is clearly meant to be.

Can I get an amen?

 

[writwing]

Hallelujah My Brothers, lay your hands on your computer monitors and pray to the almighty that when writwing goes to the range with his blessed +P ammo in his LCP, that someone is there with a camera phone so they can put it on youtube. Not that I ask for anything bad to happen O Lord, I would never do that. I just want writwing to reside with his true brothers, idiots with guns on youtube as it is clearly meant to be.

Can I get an amen?

Deleted. Your not worth it.

 

[hittman]

I see it now. You started the thread simply to argue.

Not sure why we deserve the attitude. Your initial question wasn't "cryptic" in nature. Suppose in hind sight we should have been skeptical in its simplicity and rudely told you to consult your owners manual like the rest of us do.

Sorry we didn't pick up on your ulterior motive. You're welcome to take the gamesmanship, chest pounding and "gotcha" postings back to the Political Section where they are more welcome and tolerated.

Yes, I'm locking the thread and likely should delete the entire thing. From the start there was no logical point and nothing that adds to what most members visit this fine Forum for.