spanky509
Bearcat
Me too. Don't like the lci. I have both and since buying the 9e from our member in Chandler, Az. Not fired the sr9 at all.
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What is an ici? Might elaborate on what ya really meant to say.
gramps, not a mind reader
gramps, not a mind reader
For those that have never experienced an LCI, this picture is worth a thousand words.
I agree. A protruding loaded chamber indicator is an annoyance. I much prefer the little cutout where you can visually see a portion of the case in a little window.
I agree. A protruding loaded chamber indicator is an annoyance. I much prefer the little cutout where you can visually see a portion of the case in a little window.
Acronyms bug the heck out of me. Spell it out please for an uncommon one. :?
Dave
Dave
Clovishound
Blackhawk
Loaded Chamber Indicator.
They don't bother me. I don't think they are a necessary safety item.
They don't bother me. I don't think they are a necessary safety item.
Nice safety feature as long as it does not effect the function of the gun. In training you are taught to pull the slide back just a tad to check the chamber.... but there are some semi autos where this is a real pain to do.... on double/single actions you cock the hammer to make it easier to slightly pull back the slide a tad... the problem is on double action onlys and especially sub compacts this is hard to do.
I have an XD that has a small loaded chamber indicator that never really bothered me. I never really liked the SR series. The loaded chamber indicator on them always seemed huge to me but the real reason was the magazine disconnect. To be honest I've never really depended on a loaded chamber indicator anyway. If I want to know my pistol is clear I'm going to drop the mag & lock the slide back. If I want to know it is loaded I will do as Blume said & pull the slide back a very small amount. I do prefer the small cutout that lets you look.
StanD
Bearcat
Heliman said:
Same here Dave. A new person on a forum hasn't got a clue what's being said. The loaded indicator doesn't bother me nor do the safety features. I'm too old to worry about being macho, in fact I'm old enough to screw up so they are probably a good thing for me.
Conservative
Blackhawk
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Glocks have em too, but you have to know how to find them.
Honest Injun, they really are equipped with em, at least, my G19 gen 3 have em...I have two...
Honest Injun, they really are equipped with em, at least, my G19 gen 3 have em...I have two...
22/45 Fan
Hunter
I don't think they are particularly a safety item but they do confirm you actually retracted the slide sufficiently to load a new round. The Ruger SR version is easy to see and gets in the way of nothing. What's the objection? The magazine disconnect on the SR's is more of a problem but easily removed.Clovishound said:
Hmm, I know the condition my carry weapon is in. No need to check. With the LCP you can look and see the cartridge if that is a problem for you.
When an abbreviation is first used, it is spelled out followed by the abbreviation.
"Loaded Chamber Indicator" (LCI)
gramps
When an abbreviation is first used, it is spelled out followed by the abbreviation.
"Loaded Chamber Indicator" (LCI)
gramps
Not to be pedantic some require acronym followed by the expansion: e.g. LCI (Loaded Chamber Indicator). I slightly favour this as the reader seems to get it more often. I do not feel that acronyms should be used unless they occur frequently in the article or are a relatively obscure standard that needs explanation.
Actually that is a big gripe I have about our local newspaper.. and their lack of proof readers and the training of their reporters... they will constantly write and article and use an acronym and not define it.
As for the loaded chamber indicator... or more to the point checking to see if one is in the chamber.... it reminds me of the only time I've seen this done in a movie or on television... The movie Heat with Robert De Niro and Al Pacino .... both when they pull their weapons check to make sure one is in the chamber.
As for the loaded chamber indicator... or more to the point checking to see if one is in the chamber.... it reminds me of the only time I've seen this done in a movie or on television... The movie Heat with Robert De Niro and Al Pacino .... both when they pull their weapons check to make sure one is in the chamber.
I've never understood a couple firearms issues some shooters have.
Dislike for safeties. Don't like it, don't use it, easy. Don't use it and you have the same reliability as a gun w/o a safety
Loaded Chamber Indicator. Personally, I like the SR9Cs, quick and obvious indication of a round in the chamber, much like an exposed hammer on a 1911. Sure beats peering through a tiny opening such as on the LCP. Don
Dislike for safeties. Don't like it, don't use it, easy. Don't use it and you have the same reliability as a gun w/o a safety
Loaded Chamber Indicator. Personally, I like the SR9Cs, quick and obvious indication of a round in the chamber, much like an exposed hammer on a 1911. Sure beats peering through a tiny opening such as on the LCP. Don
ilikerams
Single-Sixer
DonD said:
jstanfield103
Blackhawk
I have never liked the LCI. I don't blame people for liking them or disliking them. It is a personal preference. I have always made LCI plugs and enjoyed the guns the out them.
In fact there are a few Ruger's that I will not buy because they have them. I now can buy the Mark IV because they do not have the LCI anymore.
In fact there are a few Ruger's that I will not buy because they have them. I now can buy the Mark IV because they do not have the LCI anymore.
Simple answer for any pistol... if there is a magazine in the gun then there is a round in the chamber... remove the mag eject the round in the chamber. Keep all your semi-autos like that and you are 'safe'.
22/45 Fan
Hunter
The "press check" to confirm a loaded chamber has it's own problems. If nothing else it puts your hand too close to the muzzle.grobin said:
A press check is where you pull the slide back far enough to visualize the cartridge, therefore knowing it is in Condition 1. Very popular with the tactical crowd.
gramps
gramps
22/45 Fan
Hunter
In an ideal world that is exactly what everyone would do all the time. However, the real world is far from ideal and "accidents" do happen so mechanical safety devices are an attempt to substitute for proper behavior.blume357 said:
Armybrat
Hunter
:lol: :mrgreen:ilikerams said:
The lci has never bothered me, nor the safety - as they do not affect the gun's function. Some folks gotta have something to complain about though.
There's more than me just needing something to complain about. As an Ordnanceman, I have seen parts and systems fail on every weapon imaginable. If it's a mechanical component, it can fail. I just don't like extra mechanical components added to any weapon that are not a necessary part for the weapon to function, but still could fail, and create a stoppage. Since the LCI does ride on and is lifted by the rim of a cartridge, it is entirely possible that the LCI slot could be damaged or plugged, or the LCI itself damaged, and if the LCI cannot lift as it should, it could cause the gun from going into battery. Highly likely? No. Possible? Yes.
I have also read reports of LCI's breaking. If the LCI, pin, and/or spring falls on the ground, it's no big deal. If the parts find their way into the gun, that could also create a stoppage.
Murphy has successes of his own without us giving him extra chances. Same with magazine disconnects, passive firing pin safeties, and internal locks. If some of us have opinions, and would prefer to have, or not have, any given feature, it doesn't necessarily mean we are mindless complainers.
On a range, such a failure might be just an inconvenience and probably doesn't matter. In real life, it could be tragic.
And if a feller wants a model that tells him if it's loaded or not, go for it. That's his choice and his business.
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