LC4 see through scope mounts?

[outdoorguy]

Finally found an LC4, in near-new condition.
Shoots great at 25, but at 100 I'm going to need some optics (range I shoot at has 25/100/200 for rifle, no 50).
I'd really like to retain the ability to use the open sights for 25, but have a decent low-power scope for longer shots (just plinking/target).

Anybody know of a set of see-through mounts that work?
I did some searches, both here and generally, but no real luck, so I'm turning to the real experts

I'm open to the idea of QR type mounts too, but prefer the see-through option. If you've got QR suggestions, that would be great too, as long as they're not through the roof, price-wise.

Thanks,

-pete

 

[wwb]

Leupold makes a nice set of QD bases and rings, but the bases may still obstruct the iron sights even with the scope removed.

Not to beat a dead horse (I saw it move !!!..... whack! whack! whack!), but the see-through mounts have been the subject of several threads. One of the best comments to emerge from the fog was "they sound like a good idea until you try them".

Weaver makes a 1-3X scope.... crank it down to 1X and you can shoot it with both eyes open (provided your scope eye is your dominant eye), and at 3X it's okay for plinking target work to 100 yards. Mount one as low as it will go, so that your eye falls naturally centered behind the scope, and forget about the iron sights.

 

[outdoorguy]

Yeah, I saw those Leupolds. I have a similar set on my Mini30, but they are a hassle, getting them just right so they aren't interferring with the action is tricky, at best. I gave up on them eventually and decided I didn't want the red-dot that much on the Mini.

On the other hand, I have some see-throughs on my GSR and they work great, dead on at 25 with the irons, and the scope is perfect at 100.
I already have a reaonably decent 4x scope, so I was hoping to do this on cheap and get some see-through rings.
I know what you mean though, the see-through part has to be reasonable-sized, or they're mostly unusable.

I did do a search before I posted, perhaps not thoroughly enough. I used "LC4 see through mount" and got zero results. I probably should've fished around some more with different terms...

-pete

 

[mike7mm08]

Why not use the ruger rings as QD rings?? They are fairly easy to get on and off and will return to nearly perfect zero. Just get yourself a dedicated driver to turn the rings so as to always put the same level of torque on the screws or better yet a torque driver and always torque to the same settings. You can remove the scope in the rings in a minute at most to use open sights. I am not aware of anyone making see through rings for rugers. They would not be gun specific. All rugers use the same rings. Just some use both rings the same height such as the carbines others like the model 77s use two different heights.

Other option is converting to weaver/picatinney type base as you can get weaver style see through mounts. But you encounter a problem that route as well. The mount prevents you from seeing the rear sight. But you would have more options for quick detach rings. Could go with some type of rail mounted rear sight to replace the factory rear. Mount that on the rail with your scope in quick detach weaver style mounts.
Rail options:

http://www.midwayusa.com/find?sortby=1&itemsperpage=20&newcategorydimensionid=8907&

So you can see there really is not a solution to your problem. As suggested your best bet might be a low power scope and forget the sights or as I suggested use the ruger rings as detachables by buying a quality dedicated tool for removal and installation.

 

[Richbaker]

I know what you mean though, the see-through part has to be reasonable-sized, or they're mostly unusable.

-pete

No, you have no idea what he meant.... See-thru mounts require the scope to sit so high off the bore that the shooter is unable to get a good, consistent "cheek weld" on the stock, and, therefore, the shooter prints poor, inconsistent groups. A consistent cheek weld is necessary to shoot good groups.
A scope that sits too high over the bore also has a whole 'nother set of problems, due to paralax.


ETA: spelling.

 

[mike7mm08]

The problems are magnified with guns like the Ruger carbines. Even with normal rings the stock design prevents proper cheek weld. With the high see thrus you will alot of times end up with no cheek weld at all.