KP97DC ~ $350 Too Much?

[96/44]

I don't know if its worth it or not, but I don't think I would be able to walk away if I had the cash in my pocket. It's not like you can order a new one at any price, right?

 

[Mike J]

I don't know the going prices but it sounds like a good deal to me.

 

[DA_TriggR4Ruger]

$350 is eExactly what I sold mine for.

 

[revhigh]

Sounds high to me ... I'd think more like $275-300 ... it IS used after all. That's pretty much a NIB price.

Here's a few listings, mostly expired, but it will give you an idea ...

http://www.auctionarms.com/Search/Displ ... um=9155206

http://www.gunsamerica.com/976996687/Gu ... 97DC.htm?&

http://rugerforum.net/parts-accessories ... p97dc.html

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[railroader]

The price might be a little high but for like new isn't bad. I have one and they are very accurate. It also has lighter recoil than my kimber and a polymer 45 acp CZ clone I have. I did a search on gunbroker and the ones there went from $340 to $400 depending on the condition. Mark

 

[airwin]

Grab it! The P97 is one of the best .45 pistols ever made. You will love it and in future you will be glad to have it. I have paid 570 Euros for mine here in Europe, two weeks ago as special offer. The list price was 700 Euros! But it´s worth for me, I love this gun.

 

[tkarter]

Any DC model I ever get my hands on will be worth 500 or more or it won't get sold. They don't make them any more and they happen to be the only Ruger auto worth carrying IMHO.

tk

 

[gatorhugger]

Any DC model I ever get my hands on will be worth 500 or more or it won't get sold. They don't make them any more and they happen to be the only Ruger auto worth carrying IMHO.

tk

Exactly right. I hear things like " it should be 250 or 300" but the truth is I don't see too many DC all metal Rugers much anymore.
Given that they were/are possibly the most reliable pistol ever made, and the supply is dwindling, who is to say it's not worth 500?
A glock is 500, and a DC is every bit as good. I don't care what they used to sell for.

 

[revhigh]

who is to say it's not worth 500?

Uhhh ... how about the used gun market ???? Put one for sale for $500 and see if it sells .... that should answer your question.

WHo's to say a used Yugo isn't worth $50K ??? Same answer ... the market ...

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[tkarter]

It isn't always about what you remember them costing Rev.

I remember cigarettes for .25 a pack.

Cops would give a drunk a ride home and not jail.

tk

 

[gatorhugger]

who is to say it's not worth 500?

Uhhh ... how about the used gun market ???? Put one for sale for $500 and see if it sells .... that should answer your question.

WHo's to say a used Yugo isn't worth $50K ??? Same answer ... the market ...

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I was using that as an extreme example obviously. However, what the general public decides a gun is worth, is not necessarily what the OP should decide it's worth. If it's a gun he wants why not $350? Or $500?
If he likes it and there is not a glut of guns to choose from it's worth what he is willing to spend.
People pay $800 for Sigs, are they really "worth" it?
A ruger is not a yugo. Comparing a Ruger to a car that did not work is moronic.
A ruger p series will PERFORM exactly as expected by 99% of all self
defense buyers. They don't jam. To some people myself included, that is near invaluable today. Certainly a functioning firearm is more important to most than accuracy.
Depends on the buyer is all I am saying, and these guns are going UP in value, not down as they are being recognized for their dependabilty.
If he buys it for $400 today, he won't lose sleep over it 10 years from now.

 

[revhigh]

Hey Gator !

The OP asked if a certain price was too much ... I gave him my opinion and backed it up with several examples.

I did not compare any Ruger to a Yugo, it was an analogy regarding market value.

I fail to see why every single discussion about a Ruger P-model has to end up talking about Sigs and accuracy, and whether Sigs cost too much or not ... they were never mentioned in this thread at all.

The question about the gun was this .... "Are these bringing $350.00?", there was never a mention of accuracy, jamming, reliability, or other brands, or whether a Sig is worth $800. Your statement that Ruger P-series guns are going 'UP' in value would be VERY hard to prove, as far as I've seen.

Take it easy,

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[tkarter]

I believe the value of a DC Ruger will continue to climb as they get harder to come by.

They certainly are fine handguns.

tk

 

[revhigh]

I believe the value of a DC Ruger will continue to climb as they get harder to come by.

tk

I don't recall seeing the value climb at all, let alone 'continue' to climb. They're still $225-250 in my area, and even at those prices they sit for months. I also don't see how they're getting 'harder to come by', unless they're wearing out and being thrown away (thus decreasing the available supply)... there's just as many out there today as there were the day Ruger stopped making them ... it's not like their numbers are 'dwindling' that I know of. If people would like to 'believe' that the values are going up, or 'believe' that they're getting 'scarcer' in order to justify paying over market for a given product, that's up to them.

To be honest, It doesn't matter to me what people pay for their guns ... it's their money after all. Spend $250 or spend $500, if you're happy after the fact, that's all that matters.

If you like the gun ... I say go for it, no matter the cost.

Put a Ruger P-series gun on this forum for $400 (or even $350) and see if it sells .... compared to the ones that actually have sold at $225-275.

The value of any given product at any given time is precisely what someone will pay for it ... not a penny more, even if fans of the product proclaim it to be 'worth more', or 'increasing in value'.

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[revhigh]

To further demonstrate ... here's a few P-series guns that were/are for sale on our forum ...

'FIRM' $325 price reduced twice to a 'firm' $305 and NOT SOLD. Pretty 'FIRM', huh ??? Net for gun (if sold) ... 'maybe' $250 ?

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtop ... hlight=p89

For sale at $350 since September ... NOT SOLD

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtop ... hlight=p89

Here's a P85 for $275 ... at the bottom of thread.

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtop ... hlight=p89

Here's one ... sold at $250 ... REDUCED from an hopeful price of $300, but it DID SELL AT $250.

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtop ... hlight=p89

Here's one for $325 ... since Dec 08 ...

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtop ... hlight=p89

Here's a 97 that actually SOLD, for $330 shipped ... net for the gun probably $275-300.

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtop ... ght=kp97dc

Here's one that sold for $280 shipped .... net for gun about $225-250.

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtop ... ght=kp97dc

Here's a P89 AND a P95 for $480 TOTAL .... $240 each ...

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtop ... hlight=p95

Here's BRAND NEW P95's for $300 shipped ...

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtop ... hlight=p95

Here's a KP95 at the unrealistic price of $315 ... result ... NOT SOLD ...

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtop ... hlight=p95

Here's a P95 at $275 OBO ... result ... NOT SOLD ...

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtop ... hlight=p95

Here's a P95 at $290 ... NOT SOLD ...

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtop ... hlight=p95



Looks like prices for these guns are skyrocketing !!!!

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[gatorhugger]

These guns normally sell LOCALLY. Lower priced guns normally aren't collectors so they sell Locally. Get it? It cost too much to do one long distance, it's just cheaper to get one locally especially concerning all those 95's you listed. They are everywhere.
That proves nothing and isn't even the guns I was talking about.
I was talking about the all metal P's

Nobody said the price was Skyrocketing but they are going up in value, certainly not losing value.
You listed a BUNCH of P95's. Which are still made and are a dime a dozen.
You list an 85 that is obviously not in the class of guns I am talking about.
I am referring to 89's, 90's, 93's, 94's.
Not the 95 polymer stuff.
The metal guns. Those you conveniently overlook in your "sales report"
Those metal guns that 5 years ago were $200 are now starting at $300 if in good shape.
Not skyrocketing but niether is your God of guns Sig Sauer.
How many Sigs do we see for $500-$600 that COST $800!!!???
A LOT.
That is selling them for less than they cost new.
That happens a lot with Sigs.

So I could play the same stupid game listing prices of people desperate to sell guns. And manipulate the numbers.
It's a ridiculous game.

The point is you said Ruger autos are cheap, yugos, not worth $400, but you will gladly spend $400 for a Sig. They are so much better.
The BMW's of the gun world.
Blah blah, bunch of Bullcrap.
It's a gun. Not a car. Not that complicated.
Layoff the german koolaid.
Earth to Rev, earth to Rev, they do the same job.
All those metal framed Rugers, never had a problem, they are universally beloved. Google it.
You are the only person I have ever spoken to that dislikes them.
THE ONLY ONE!! Do a google search and it's raving review after raving review. Except for you.
Does that tell you something? Do you think you are right and the world is wrong?
WOW!!
These are universally beloved guns Rev, the metal ones, not the others.
There is a reason why.

 

[tkarter]

You live in the colonies I take it.

tk

 

[railroader]

The thing with prices on the forum is if they have to be shipped and the seller isn't an FFL your looking at $50 or more for overnight shipping plus transfer at the receiving FFL. That will kill most deals on $350 pistols. As for those listings you can't compare P95s because you can get them new for around $300 shipped on gunbroker. Mark

 

[tkarter]

How many P95 DC can I get for 300 or 350 new?

I would pay more for a P97 DC.



tk

 

[revhigh]

Layoff the german koolaid.

So far Gator, YOU are the only one who's mentioned ANY gun that isn't a Ruger in this thread .... a little German/Austrian envy maybe ????

 

[revhigh]

How many P95 DC can I get for 300 or 350 new?

I would pay more for a P97 DC.

tk

I listed several 89's, an 85 and 2 KP97DC's if you bothered to look at the links. I also listed some 95's as well. I intentionally listed an assortment.

I'd think RUGERS would sell for MORE here on a RUGER forum, where everybody thinks so highly of them .... hmmmm .... wonder why they don't ....

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[tkarter]

LOL Rev.

tk

 

[revhigh]

These are universally beloved guns Rev, the metal ones, not the others.

OMG !!! Are you actually saying that there are Rugers (the 'other' ones) that are not 'universally beloved' ??? Are you actually telling me that there are people who do not unconditionally LOVE Ruger semi's ?? Surely that is blasphemy.

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