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Just bought a new in box Ruger LCP 380 from a dealer here in Charleston,SC. (I have NOT shot the gun yet) Got home and read the book, then opened the little folder and looked at the spent shell that they shoot at the factory.
Check out the size of the crack in this brass. I'm no expert,,,but is this something I should be concerned about? Its a Federal shell.
I called Ruger and left a msg today around 12:00 noon,,,they have yet to call me back.

Comments??????

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That brass looks pretty well worn. Look at the mouth and sizing marks on the side. I'd try a factory round or 2 and see how the new brass looks...
 
Thanks,,,,but that was a factory round,,,,"From the Ruger factory".

They just called me and asked if I could e-mail them the same pic. Ill let you know what they say.
 
FishHead said:
Thanks,,,,but that was a factory round,,,,"From the Ruger factory".

They just called me and asked if I could e-mail them the same pic. Ill let you know what they say.
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What Mikid means is it's a reload.

...and it is, a bad one with a rolled mouth.

I would be shocked if Ruger used reloads for gun testing.
 
The case does not look bulged, I would guess just a bad case, it happens.

Roger
 
Thanks for sharing. That I hope is an anomaly, that doesn't happen any more. A once fired casing splitting like that sure ruins any plans for reloading that brass.
gramps
 
That looks like a defective case from the manufacturer and it should have been caught and never fired. I would fire some new ammo and check the cases. :D :D
 
Remember a few years back, Federal was having the same thing happen with their 32 H&R factory loads? Could just be some brittle brass...


captainkirk
 
There is a chance it could be a reload, Ruger gets at least some of its proof ammunition from Black Hills.

I can't really see from your photo, but is the case head painted red?

I would fire one factory new cartridge and if that splits then contact Ruger as it could be an oversize chamber.
 
How does this not get caught by the PERSON who put the damn cartridge in the little paper envelope lol?

I wouldn't shoot that pistol on principle alone. Not after the "rigorous QA process" that pistol went through.
 
I would probably wait til I heard from Ruger, or had the smith at the LGS you bought it from check it out. The two stores I deal with in Summerville have a smith on site, and will work on a gun you bought from them for free. One does it for a year and the other has started advertising lifetime.

I have recently started reloading. I have culled out several ruptured cases during the reloading process. I usually look at them carefully after they have been flared. Don't know if the ruptured ones cracked during the flaring process, or were that way from the gun. I also don't know if they were mine (none reloaded more than twice at this point), or from someone else at the range. I suspect that brass I pick up at the range is once fired, as reloaders will pick theirs up. I collect all 9mm brass on the floor in my area, unless the person in the next lane is saving theirs. I always ask before picking any up that may come from a neighbor. I always go home with more brass than I fired.
 
There's a chance that pistol has an oversized chamber. Ruger will fix that for you. It's a matter of giving them a call. I would not fire that gun under that suspicion. It's good that you checked that spent cartridge.
 
I wouldn't give it much thought. You need to get some ammo & shoot it in your gun, THEN evaluate the spent casings. I'd bet it's just the factory case & all is well with your gun.
 
PalVal,,,,start from the top.

Ive called them already, and sent them an e-mail with the same pic. The said they would respond back in a couple days...........................

I will NOT shoot the gun until I here back from Ruger.
 
Uh, OK. I get distracted sometimes. Please don't listen to those advising you to do your own "testing". It's probably nothing, but it pays to be safe. A case rupture will really get your attention at the least, injure you at worst.
 
Come on, guys. Do you really think the gun manufacturers have the time to shoot one round from a gun, pick it up, seal it in an envelope and pack it with the gun? They load up, fire a bunch of rounds and then stick them in envelopes. Actually, I'm pretty sure they just buy range brass from some guy on the internet and then pay someone minimum wage to stick one piece into each envelope. ;-)
 
dougader said:
Come on, guys. Do you really think the gun manufacturers have the time to shoot one round from a gun, pick it up, seal it in an envelope and pack it with the gun? They load up, fire a bunch of rounds and then stick them in envelopes. Actually, I'm pretty sure they just buy range brass from some guy on the internet and then pay someone minimum wage to stick one piece into each envelope. ;-)
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I guarantee they follow the law. Many states require a fired cartridge and they would not risk legal problems over something like that. Just one more un-necessary government regulation to follow. :shock: :shock:
 
Well,,,,,,Its been six days and no answer from Ruger yet...........................Thats pretty slack if you ask me.

How long does it take to send an e-mail or make a phone call?????????????????????????????????????????
 
Got a response today.......

Here is what they said.

Mr. Fishhead,

I apologize, I have been waiting to hear back from my superiors regarding the issue. I was also out sick, so again I do apologize for my delayed response. I would like for you to call our Customer Service Department at (928) 778-XXXX so we can provide you a prepaid UPS return label and have our technicians determine what is going on. Please have your serial number and contact information ready for the representative.
Again I am deeply sorry for the delayed response. I hope this helps"
 
Yea,,,Its good,,,but it should have been good when I bought it,,,,ya know.
I just hope they dont keep it for a few months....
 
It wasn't a shell from Federal was it? I noticed someone else mentioned Federal brass having problems. About 8 years ago not having any reloads made up, I bought a couple of boxes of Federal .38 Spl. match WC ammo to do a little practice. Over half the cases in one box cracked like what was shown in the picture. When it has come to problems with brass, I have had more issues with Federal's stuff than any other make other than Amerc. :(
Paul B.
 
dougader said:
Come on, guys. Do you really think the gun manufacturers have the time to shoot one round from a gun, pick it up, seal it in an envelope and pack it with the gun? They load up, fire a bunch of rounds and then stick them in envelopes. Actually, I'm pretty sure they just buy range brass from some guy on the internet and then pay someone minimum wage to stick one piece into each envelope. ;-)
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Some states require a spent case from the gun being registered. To be used as a "fingerprint" with crime related cases. I doubt Ruger would risk prosecution/fines for supplying false info/cases to local Depts of Justice...
 
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