Internal locks...

Joe S.

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Are they really a problem? I cant see where they would be but i wonder.

I know people talk of Taurus locks and S&W locks "potentially" failing but have never known it to happen personally.

Do people hate Ruger internal locks as much as they do the Smiths? I like how they are not obvious...
 
Joe S. said:
Are they really a problem? I cant see where they would be but i wonder.

I know people talk of Taurus locks and S&W locks "potentially" failing but have never known it to happen personally.

Do people hate Ruger internal locks as much as they do the Smiths? I like how they are not obvious...

Locks on Rugers are out of sight and out of mind.
Most people just ignore them.
 
I have personally seen the Smith & Wesson lock cause malfunctions. I have not seen it occur with a Ruger. Ruger's is of a different, and apparently better, design. I would still prefer they had never introduced them.
 
I have had ONE Ruger revolver with the internal lock, a 6" .41 Mag. I didn't like it because the hammer spring used for the lock setup seemed weak, with a noticeably slower hammer fall. I took the expensive route, fitting a steel frame to it and putting in a "normal" hammer strut and spring.
 
I have a Smith and Wesson with a lock and thousands of rounds through it...never a problem. I have no problem buying a gun with the lock.
 
Never had a problem with a S&W lock, but I did get rid of it on my 686 because aesthetically I couldn't stand it.

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Mine's been no issue except of you want to use certain grips, like the hogue Mono etc. Those simply won't work with it. My blackhawk still has some scars from trying to fit one before I knew better. 8(
 
My Smith & Wesson revolvers are all of the older "no-lock" variety, and that is what I prefer. However, I previously owned a Smith & Wesson with the lock and had no problems with it. I have a Ruger Vaquero with the lock hidden in the grip frame, and am perfectly happy with it.
 
They claim, the malfunctions are just on the light weight guns, with heavy loads.

I think it is funny that some will trust a sub standard brand of gun that is prone to breaking, but not trust a S&W with a lock. There is about a 1 in a million chance that the lock will cause a problem, about the same odds as anything else causing a problem. Don't get me wrong I wish they didn't have the locks, but I am not going to worry about it..Ed,.
 
The Ruger lock can be removed and a Bearcat spring seat used to replace it, so I've heard. I removed the locks on a pair of New Vaqueros and made new seats myself. Works fine.
 
22/45 Fan said:
My new GP-100 does not have a lock of any type. I don't like them and don't see the value but I'm not worried about them either.

They only had the locks in the single actions.
 
I don't want locks on my guns. Could care less whether they function or fail. Redesigning guns with internal locks is nothing more than kowtowing to the anti gun crowd. It becomes an implication that 1) gun owners will not responsibly store their weapons, or 2) firearm designs without locks are inherently dangerous.

I do respect Ruger for removing the locks from the new models, as I think it's an indicator that they are done trying to appease the anti-gun left. By over-stepping the boundaries of reality, the "microstamping" issue seems to have encouraged a few manufacturers to put their foot down and really dig in for a fight - even moreso than the past.
 
They're still out there. Less than a week ago my friend bought a new in box Lipsey stainless mid frame convertible .45. Took it home and tore it down to install an oversized locking bolt, and voila, the dreaded lock. He made sure to tell me about too, as I had told him that the internet scuttlebutt indicated that they were a thing of the past.

I'll be a while living this one down.
 
cadillo said:
They're still out there. Less than a week ago my friend bought a new in box Lipsey stainless mid frame convertible .45. Took it home and tore it down to install an oversized locking bolt, and voila, the dreaded lock. He made sure to tell me about too, as I had told him that the internet scuttlebutt indicated that they were a thing of the past.

I'll be a while living this one down.

That gun may have been sitting in some distributors safe for a while before he finally sold it.

Ruger is currently not producing guns with locks in them.
 
caryc said:
cadillo said:
They're still out there. Less than a week ago my friend bought a new in box Lipsey stainless mid frame convertible .45. Took it home and tore it down to install an oversized locking bolt, and voila, the dreaded lock. He made sure to tell me about too, as I had told him that the internet scuttlebutt indicated that they were a thing of the past.

I'll be a while living this one down.



That gun may have been sitting in some distributors safe for a while before he finally sold it.

Ruger is currently not producing guns with locks in them.

New old stock would be my best guess also.
 

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