I'm in Haiti

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I've been incognito. I'm on a cruise ship approaching Labadee Haiti. The 25-bucks a day on board internet doesn't work very well. Hope it doesn't fail while I'm posting this.

It's warm here, and til a few minutes ago was pouring rain. Wife is scheduled on the zip line. Not me.. :mrgreen:

A bucket list adventure.

WAYNO.
 
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Being stuck on a big boat with way too many people and can't fish or shoot...nada. Haiti ? Noti. Sorry.
 
have fun & write when you get work!!!!

I have a 'negative bucket list' of things I most certainly don't want to do in the first place or having barely survived the first time, ever do again.....

'zip line' is one of them and 'cruise ship anywhere' is another
 
Haiti hasn't made it to my bucket list, but then I'm not all that creative. Although $25 a day sounds good if it's all inclusive. I was thinking maybe someone had called a member of your family and said you were in jail in Haiti but they could get you out if they were sent $1000 American.

My mother got a call like that about my son being in a jail in Mexico. She almost sent the money but called us to see what he was doing in Mexico. He's never been to Mexico.
 
A cruise ship to Haiti??? I'd rather hop on my Harley and ride around for a couple of hundred miles with no destination.
 
BPJ, et al, a Zip line is a rope tied on both ends with a downward slant. A pulley is on the rope with a seat, and handle underneath. Some also have chest harnesses. The ones we used were without pulley's. Just used a carabiner and Swiss seat for short distances. WAYNO, have fun, and remember it didn't happen without pictures! :mrgreen:
gramps
 
Dragon's Breath Zip Line (world's longest zip line over water) Labadee, Haiti

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a64ZTj-nYQ


ooooooooooooooooooooooh crap. :D
 
I'm back on the boat. The cruise line owns this portion of Haiti. I've never been on any beach anywhere as gorgeous, as clean, that has such great food, and with such great service. I've also never been on a beach with armed guards.

Next stop, Falmouth Jamaica, tomorrow.

An 1100-foot ship. With vectored thrust on four corners, this thing parks itself easier than a Toyota.

This trip was not necessarily at the top of my list either. But it's not always about me. For my wife, and my sister, and a cousin, this is a trip of a lifetime. And I am glad we did it.

Zika virus? They say if I'm not pregnant, I need not worry. And the hygiene requirements on the boat are very strict. I just wish all the pasengers would take it serious. Especially the men.

WAYNO.
 
My sister and brother-in-law live on the other side of that island, in the Dominican Republic. It's very beautiful there.

Have a great time!
 
I'm so glad my daughter will go to Hawaii every couple of years with my wife so I don't have to. While they're gone I load up the bike and motor off on the backroads and byways. But it ain't on a Harley.
 
My one and only trip to Hispaniola was Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic and it was Navy Gray and underway. We pulled in there on a workup cruise. Beautiful island but very poor. The river you access Santo Domingo on is a giant sewer, smelled horrible. Four of us Marines rented a taxi for the whole day and night we were on liberty, cost a whole $10.. Got to see a lot of that side of the island though (had two flats during the day). I won't ever go back.

Have fun Wayno.

Karl
 
737tdi said:
My one and only trip to Hispaniola was Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic and it was Navy Gray and underway. We pulled in there on a workup cruise. Beautiful island but very poor. The river you access Santo Domingo on is a giant sewer, smelled horrible. Four of us Marines rented a taxi for the whole day and night we were on liberty, cost a whole $10.. Got to see a lot of that side of the island though (had two flats during the day). I won't ever go back.

Have fun Wayno.

Karl

Hey Karl, the "gray" river you describe reminds me of the "s..t" river in Olongapo City in the Philippines. 1971 memories....
 
Heliman said:
737tdi said:
My one and only trip to Hispaniola was Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic and it was Navy Gray and underway. We pulled in there on a workup cruise. Beautiful island but very poor. The river you access Santo Domingo on is a giant sewer, smelled horrible. Four of us Marines rented a taxi for the whole day and night we were on liberty, cost a whole $10.. Got to see a lot of that side of the island though (had two flats during the day). I won't ever go back.

Have fun Wayno.

Karl

Hey Karl, the "gray" river you describe reminds me of the "s..t" river in Olongapo City in the Philippines. 1971 memories....


Dave, it was worse. I clearly remember the Benjo ditches and "s..t" river and they smelled like heaven compared to Santo Domingo. It was so bad that you could see the sewers flowing/waterfalling into the river as turds floated past the U boats.

Karl
 
737 your memory of Santo Domingo is very different from mine. I was on Navy grey and we pulled into port there in 1973. Had a great time and still have a couple wooden souvenirs from there. The country was poor but the very limited areas I saw were clean.

From Wikipedia
The Dominican Republic is the most visited destination in the Caribbean. The year-round golf courses are among the top attractions on the island.[20] A geographically diverse nation, the Dominican Republic is home to the region's tallest mountain peak, Pico Duarte, as well as the Caribbean's largest lake and lowest elevation, Lake Enriquillo.[24] The island has an average temperature of 26 °C (78.8 °F) and great climatic and biological diversity.
Both by area and population the Dominican Republic is the second-largest Caribbean nation (after Cuba), with (18,705 sq mi) and nearly 10 million people, one million of whom live in the capital city Santo Domingo
 
I've never wanted to vacation in a country where the majority of the people are dirt poor. Just don't like to flaunt my better situation. Lucky for me I have a nice big country to vacation in.
 
longspurr said:
737 your memory of Santo Domingo is very different from mine. I was on Navy grey and we pulled into port there in 1973. Had a great time and still have a couple wooden souvenirs from there. The country was poor but the very limited areas I saw were clean.

From Wikipedia
The Dominican Republic is the most visited destination in the Caribbean. The year-round golf courses are among the top attractions on the island.[20] A geographically diverse nation, the Dominican Republic is home to the region's tallest mountain peak, Pico Duarte, as well as the Caribbean's largest lake and lowest elevation, Lake Enriquillo.[24] The island has an average temperature of 26 °C (78.8 °F) and great climatic and biological diversity.
Both by area and population the Dominican Republic is the second-largest Caribbean nation (after Cuba), with (18,705 sq mi) and nearly 10 million people, one million of whom live in the capital city Santo Domingo



That is all on the North side. Santo Domingo, the capital is on the southern part. The tourist areas are kept clean. I was not in the tourist area. It is extremely different. Just like Jamaica or the cruise line owned part of Haiti. It is no where near the same. Visit the actual island. You would throw up. Read Wikipedia all you want. Santo Domingo is a crap hole and no US tourist visits there. It is and still is a crap hole. I visited once again a few years ago to inspect the airport. It is still a crap hole.

If you believe what you see off of a cruise ship you are terribly naïve. The Dominican Republic is just about as poor as you can get. Haiti is much poorer. Folks sure have fun there though. Why, because the cruise lines bought the properties. Come on man, go outside the fences. Horrendous.



Karl
 
If you primarily stay on the ship, it could drive around in circles anyplace with a tropical climate.

From what I understand, there are a buncha self contained upscale resorts in Hati. The tourists go straight there off the ship, or straight from the airport on shuttle bus, and never step outside the compound. Inside same as a self contained resort anywhere else in Caribian, and the beaches and water are similar enough. With cheaper real estate, and lower labor costs, they can undercut the prices for similar resorts in Jamacia or wherever. They just won't wander around sightseeing outside of the resort complex.
 
I am back home, safe. I am incredibly tired. Lots of activity packed into 13 days.

I will not apologize to anybody for taking a cruise. Flaunting my American wealth to the third world? Maybe I saw it differently. I left lots of money with a lot of folks that have zero means to make a living, other than when the tourists come to town. I learned a lot on this trip.

The boat? As I'd already posted, incredibly huge. The passenger elevator stopped at 14 decks. And there was still lots of boat above the 14th floor. And lots of boat below the elevator.

Every deck had an activity of some kind. Swimming pools everywhere. Bars and restaurants, everywhere. An ice rink with an Ice Capades type of show. A huge auditorium with world class shows. A wave-rider machine where you can surf. A rock wall to climb. A basketball court. A huge shopping mall in the center of the ship. I'm not into shopping malls, or even shopping, but I could not help but marvel at the architecture. With all the marble in the floors, the walls, and the columns, I don't know how this ship could float. I suppose I'm one of the few that's never been on a modern cruise ship before, so I cannot restrain my awe. Everything about the ship was beautiful.

I spoke of Labadee Haiti. A tourist beach owned by the cruise line. Immaculate and wonderful, but no possibility of actually being able to see Haiti itself. Other than this tourist beach, the rest of the island was much larger than I would have ever imagined, seeing it from the ship. We saw few other buildings of any kind, but we did see a never ending tropical jungle.

Next was Jamaica. This was my biggest education, and my biggest disappointment. I hear Jamaican music, and I visualize Jamaica as a romantic place to retire, live like a king, and drink margaritas. The only nice place we saw in Jamaica was at the port. Extensive high-end shops all selling the same watches, jewelry, purses, and rum as all the rest of the shops on all the other islands we visited. Jimmy Buffet has his restaurant/bar/dive here and elsewhere. Can't say I was enamored with a 15-dollar margarita served from a Slurpee machine. And all these shops, duty free, had higher prices for nearly everything they sold than I could buy the same stuff for in the States.

We took the tourist tram into Falmouth. Immediately entered the worst slum-ghetto I've ever experienced. Old buildings left over from better times, when slave trading paid the bills. Now inhabited by families and businesses, with seemingly nobody to sell to, and no place to work and/or make a living. Folks standing in doorways or on sidewalks, with a look of absolutely nothing to ever look forward to. Folks break-dancing on the street as we passed, hoping for a tip. Passed a hospital. Truly looked like an abandoned barracks. I cannot imagine having to go there for an appendectomy. The one bright side was the school. The kids were all in uniform. One of the Jamaicans on our ship told us that the kids are taught that if they study hard, and are otherwise successful, they can get away from Jamaica and have a good life. Jamaica was scary.

Next stop, George Town, Grand Cayman. If you ever believed this was a beautiful, prosperous place, you were right. Banks everywhere. Jewelry shops everywhere. The place was clean, happy, and seemed everybody drove a new car. Again, every drink, meal, or gift we purchased, cost more here than in the States.

Last stop was Cozumel, Mexico. The entire place was gorgeous. Beautiful beaches. Nice roads, and also a larger island than I'd imagined. The only difference in the tourist shops between here and Tijuana, is the sombreros said Cozumel instead of Tijuana.

Now a day and a half cruise back to Port Canaveral, Florida. Folks are dragging. All the movie-star looking young folks on the ship are now wearing cutoff shorts, their hair is no longer fresh from the salon, and they've skipped the makeup room.

I will spare you all the 300 photos I took, and just share a few. This posting of photos will be a work in progress...


View of Cocoa Beach Florida from our motel room. Always a cruise ship on the horizon.


The SpaceX launch as viewed from our motel room balcony.


The protected tourist-area in Labadee, Haiti.


Tourist shops, Port of Falmouth Jamaica.




A "nicer" business on a "nicer" street.


Church cemetery. 200+ year old graves, all above ground, as the water table would flood sub-grade graves.


Falmouth Hospital.


Downtown George Town Grand Cayman.


George Town, viewed from the boat. Nice place.


Cozumel. Bought Cuban cigars here. Was told by the seller I could now bring them to the States. NOT TRUE! Had to give them away. :cry:


No way to photograph the entirety of the shopping mall on the boat.


Florida sunrise on the day we left Cocoa Beach.











WAYNO.
 
Howdy Wayno: Very glad you had a great time. Yes, vacations can become very tiring. Will keep an eye out for more pics..


Karl
 
Don't worry too much about those cigars Wanyo, they were most likely fakes anyway. 8)
 

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