Huge Surprise (kinda long)

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Background: I have been an FFL since 1989, not a stocking dealer or anything just genertal firearm repairs, Cerakoting, transfers, special orders, NFA stuff. Started when I was in the USAF and when I retired (1997) I opened my business (part time) out of my house. When I retired the second time in 2015 (done working for somone else), I opened up more full time.

I live about 3 miles from the Penn State University main campus and the word got around that I had no problem handling firearm transfers for the foreign national students. Foreign national students in the US are, because of their type of visas (F1) are, for all intents and purposes, considered US residents when purchasing firearms (even NFA items). They are also considered PA residents because of the visas. So, I started doing A LOT of transfers for these students. The majority are/were Chinese, going to PSU for their PhD's. They are not afraid to spend money on what they want and I've seen a lot of high dollar guns come through the shop. When they get their degree some stay in the US for work experience but most head back to China.

Typically, when they are ready to graduate, they would come to me for advice on what to do with their firearms. I help them out as much as possible by helping them find out what the laws are in the states where they might be working, selling the guns on consignment or doing the transfers for private sales. Yes, I have bought a few guns from them because they were offered to me a great prices.

Well, to the meat of the post. I had one regular long time Chinese customer(5 years, got his degree and worked at a local company for experience), great guy, did not act entitled (a lot of them do and it, to say the least, always irked me). He came to me in late June this year and said he was headed back to China in early August and wanted to know if I could store and then transfer some guns to a good friend (also Chinese student). The friend was out on his summer vacation and wouldn't be back until late August/early September and he would be gone by then. I told him that I could do that for him.

When he brought me the handguns, he told me that he had already given the friend the long arms (several rifles) as per US and PA laws. Here is what he brought me:

H&K SP5L 9mm (semi auto MP5) w/ 1 drum mag, 4 30+ rnd mags, 8 20 rnd mags, SpeedBeez mag loader
Norinco 213 9mm w/ 6 extra mags
Chinese Mauser C96 7.63x25mm w/ a pile of stripper clips
AREX Rex Zero 1T-01 9mm w/4 extra mags and a 2 mag belt clip
H&K USP Tactical V1 .45ACP w/ extra mags and a 2 mag belt clip
H&K Mark 23 .45ACP w/2 extra 30 rnd mags and extra mags
Ruger Mark IV 22/45 LITE black anodized w/gold barrel and trigger and 10 extra mags

He told that the his friend gets first choice on whatever pistols he wants and anything left over I could have since I had helped him out over the years without asking for anything.

His friend came to the shop to get the guns and do the transfer paperwork on September 2. He took the SP5L, the Norinco, and the C96. I asked him if he wanted anything else (he ws geting all these guns plus the rifles for free), he didn't. I asked again if he wanted anything else, just to make sure, and he said no and I told him what his friend told me. He said thats fine, I got what I wanted, I guess you get the rest.

:eek::eek::eek::eek: You could have knocked me over with a feather

Here's the pictures of what is now mine to do with what I want:

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Thank you for the kind words, I was just absolutely shocked, still getting over it.

Haven't done anything with them except to handle them a bit and started to read the manuals about tear down, basic operation and such and to check/clean the barrels. They have all been shot (not by me yet :) ) but they have been well maintained.

The Arex handles very nicely, like you said, about like a Sig. Feels good in the hand. It came with 2 identical sets (?) of 4 different rear optics adapters.

The Mark 23 is a Monster but surprisingly easy to handle. It was used more than the UPS and had, in the past, a suppressor on it (you can tell by the barrel) but it will clean up pretty easily.

Both the HK's have the polygonal "rifling", the Arex, standard rifling.

The Mark IV is in great shape, it also had a suppressor on it at one time and you can tell it was shot more but the barrel is in perfect condition.
 
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Wow! Very cool. Ron, what is the thing attached to the second HK barrel?

Those guns look immaculate! I haven’t heard of the Arex pistol.

My dad was a college professor. He always brought home foreign students for Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays if they couldn’t make it home to their families for breaks.

Some of those students are very wealthy, so it’s really not surprising to hear about this student leaving the guns.

It is however very very good to know that he got to own some and shoot some. Hopefully that will help lead to the downfall of communism in China.

Just like good ol’ Jimmy Buffett, “Changes in attitudes.”
 
The Universe has a wonderful law of abundance….what you give freely comes back in abundance. I don’t give to get but I enjoy watching for it….sometimes in the most amazing and surprising ways. I’m 75 and could site so many examples from my own life.
 
I had 6 college students working for me at a hotel I manage for a couple years. I offered them all to go shooting on multiple occasions. Free no charge for ammo etc. only 2 took me up on it and they loved it. One boy and one girl. The boys father was a communist party employee. But the others were very worried about repercussions at home. They were all aware that there are Chinese police in the USA who observe their countryman somewhat. I'm curious how you perceived the firearm sales. Do you think they were concerned about repercussions when they returned?
 
Kevin, that's just a covering over the light/laser rail.

Protoolman, in my opinion, they didn't seem to be concerned. Many bought handguns and never fired them - but they could go back home and honestly tell their friends "I owned a handgun"

Friends and I would take the foreign students out to teach them how to shoot, no charge, and there were a fair number of girls that wanted to learn and they had a ball. We started them with 22's and progressed from there. One small girl even wanted to shoot my Super Blackhawk WITH magnums. She did and was grinning from ear to ear when done.
 
I had a close friend this morning gift me a bunch of ammo for guns he no longer has. Said he was going through his ammo stash and found these unwanted calibers.
I asked him how much he wanted for the ammo he stated a bagel with cream cheese and a coffee.
A really true great friend. 🙏

My apologies for crashing your post 👍

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Not crashing my post at all, if there are others that got a very nice/big surprise I hope they let us know.

I was really hesitant about doing the post, I didn't want to come off as showing off/bragging or anything like that, but maybe more to say there are those out there that do appreciate things that others do for them without asking for anything in return.

*And I know the folks here like to see all kinds of guns and such :D
 
Yes, nice to see the good deals! I got a couple guns from an older relative this year too. And an old .22 last year at a rummage sale for $60. Actually I'm starting to give some of my stash to my son. At this age I've got too much stuff.
 
Yes, nice to see the good deals! I got a couple guns from an older relative this year too. And an old .22 last year at a rummage sale for $60. Actually I'm starting to give some of my stash to my son. At this age I've got too much stuff.
Same here. I look at a bulging safe and a wall full of ammo boxes and wonder if I’ll ever get to play in the revolution. Been doling it out to the grandkids for birthday presents and Christmas gifts cause I’m a cheap old bastard and they seem to appreciate it more than a card with a couple Benjamins. Oldest grandson now has my dad’s first rifle he bought with his first paycheck in the 1930’s. A Winchester model 69 that will still pop a dime at 100 yards. He paid $12.50 for it. Probably 1000’s of squirrels fell to that rifle and I got to eat a great many of them. Fourth generation owner and orders to stay in the family ad infinitum.
 
Not crashing my post at all, if there are others that got a very nice/big surprise I hope they let us know.

I was really hesitant about doing the post, I didn't want to come off as showing off/bragging or anything like that, but maybe more to say there are those out there that do appreciate things that others do for them without asking for anything in return.

*And I know the folks here like to see all kinds of guns and such :D
Thanks for posting it. As I said, I’ve never seen the Arex gun. Haven’t even heard of them before.

In fact, if you have room, would you bring it and one of the HK’s down to Contender’s to show off? We don’t have to shoot it if you don’t want it to be used, but I’d just like to see it and see how it feels.

Only if you’ve got room, otherwise, no big deal at all.
 
Wow! That’s fantastic. I was waiting for you to say you got the SP5K but no one in their right mind would pass on that. However , the MK23 is another I can’t imagine passing on…

I was gifted an HK USP9SD and an Abraxas Titanium supressor several years back. My best friend passed from cancer and his wife asked if I would sell his guns and ammo. As a parting gift, I got to chose any firearm I wanted. Wasn’t a hard choice. Although I didn’t get the supressor- there was a chain of custody issue that would have made it extremely costly and difficult to transfer. She also let me have a Benelli Nova Tactical and a bunch of ammo for cheap. I sold the rest and got her fair prices. No one was interested in the vintage pump octagon barrel .22 Winchester for a fair price, and I didn’t want to pay what it was worth, so I advised her to keep it, which she did. Later she found a Dan Wesson .357 in his sock drawer- literally in a sock. She decided to keep that one also. I didn’t tell her if she ever wanted to get rid of the DW, to let me know.

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So many husbands pass away and the wife takes all his guns and ammo and dumps it at the local pawn shop for pennies on the dollar.
I've seen it many times. A man's lifelong collection abandoned like an old pair of underwear. Very sad and tragic.
So many wives/widows just don't understand the value of such things. 😡 💩
 
This happened in California about 25 years ago. A Vietnam veteran passed away from Agent Orange poisoning.
His Vietnamese wife had a "garage sale" and sold all his guns and ammo to anyone who wanted them. Dirt cheap. She didn't care. She didn't like guns and wanted them gone. Many younger generations of kids don't like guns either.
 
Kevin, I'll bring them to the Gathering for people to see them, I'll have the room or I'll make it.

Randyzzz, good on you for helping her out. I've seen too many widows be taken to the cleaners (basically robbed) by unethical people (and family and gun dealers) who saw an easy mark. I've helped people in that situation in the past and I would take the guns in on consignment (get them out of the house before "family" showed up) and sell them for what they were worth and then waive my fee and only charge them the shipping costs.
 
I’ve posted about this before but…..when a great friend died I realized I was about the age he was when he gave me my most cherished guns. I tracked down his daughter and then his grandson, who I had never met but heard he is a good citizen, so I shipped the guns to a FFL in his town. He got an instant collection of great Rugers, now known as grampa’s guns. I smile every time I think of it, more joy than the money would have brought by far.
 
God bless you @Randyzzz for taking such great care of a widow in need of assistance liquidating her husband's treasured collection.
I gotta know though. Was the "vintage pump octagon barrel .22 Winchester" an 1890 Takedown model by any chance? I'd love to get hold of another one. My youngest son "shot out" the barrel, and I haven't gotten a sleeving kit to put it right again.
PM me if you can if she is still interested in sending it to a new home.
 

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