Lets say you have a perfectly flat piece of ground. Take any 9mm handgun and fire it. How far will the average target load travel before running out of steam and hit the ground? I'm not talking any +P or any other "hot" load. Just plain old paper punching loads. Thanks in advance.
How far will a 9mm round travel?
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Galaxiedan
Blackhawk
Drop is 13 inches at 100 yards and at a steep decline curve from there
Bob Wright
Hawkeye
Are you talking firing with the barrel parallel to the ground, or elevated for distance?
The old Army manuals listed maximum range for the .45 Pistol at 1,650 yards, just short of one mile.
As to the 9mm, probably not so far, due to the lighter bullet.
Bob Wright
The old Army manuals listed maximum range for the .45 Pistol at 1,650 yards, just short of one mile.
As to the 9mm, probably not so far, due to the lighter bullet.
Bob Wright
It all depends on the inclination of the barrel relative to the ground. Maximum distance would be achieved by pointing the gun up 45 degrees. Assuming a 124 grain bullet with a BC of 0.15 and a muzzle velocity of 1000 fps, it would travel approximately 2250 yards with almost 26 seconds of flight. It will strike the ground with a velocity of approximately 300 fps.
Bob Wright
Hawkeye
427mach1 said:
Actual firing tests indicate maximum range is achieved prior to reaching 45 degrees, somewhere around 30 ~ 35 degrees. Above this, distance falls off. I don't remember the full details, but one test indicated the mid-range trajectory to be around 65 feet.
Bob Wright
Jimbo357mag
Hawkeye
For a 9mm American Eagle 124gr bullet graph scroll down a little and click on 'velocity' then 'energy' then 'average range'.
http://www.federalpremium.com/ammunition/handgun/family/american-eagle/american-eagle-handgun/ae9ap
http://www.federalpremium.com/ammunition/handgun/family/american-eagle/american-eagle-handgun/ae9ap
exavid
Hunter
Jerry Miculek hit a balloon at 1000yds with a 9mm. Here's a link to a the video.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=jerry+miculek+1000+yard+shooting+videos&view=detail&mid=40918A2C9FAACEB6A69040918A2C9FAACEB6A690&FORM=VIRE
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=jerry+miculek+1000+yard+shooting+videos&view=detail&mid=40918A2C9FAACEB6A69040918A2C9FAACEB6A690&FORM=VIRE
kramden said:
Doesn't exist, this earth thing is round, sort of.
Rick Courtright
Hawkeye
Hi,
My old club had a 200 yd double dinger which I could scare quite repeatedly and hit with authority once or twice per 10 rd mag on a good day. That was on the big side, about 18" square. The small side, not quite a foot square, was pretty safe. 124 gr LRN with a starting load of Unique... I wouldn't want to stand out there mistakenly believing that bullet was close to being spent.
Rick C
My old club had a 200 yd double dinger which I could scare quite repeatedly and hit with authority once or twice per 10 rd mag on a good day. That was on the big side, about 18" square. The small side, not quite a foot square, was pretty safe. 124 gr LRN with a starting load of Unique... I wouldn't want to stand out there mistakenly believing that bullet was close to being spent.
Rick C
So, from the original question I'd speculate just about 200 yards before the round hits bottom.
When shooting at the National matches( Camp Perry), after the matches were over for the day, we would go out to about 300 yds and find the .45 bullet heads. At about 250 yd.s. they would hit the ground and run out to about 300 yd.s.
They would pile up in a group as if someone dumped them out of a bucket.
When they hit the ground, they made ruts through the grass before coming to a stop.
It was quite the site to see them piled up and when you have 400 shooters firing for the day, there's a lot of bullets on the ground.
They would pile up in a group as if someone dumped them out of a bucket.
When they hit the ground, they made ruts through the grass before coming to a stop.
It was quite the site to see them piled up and when you have 400 shooters firing for the day, there's a lot of bullets on the ground.
lgriff1968
Bearcat
Myth Busters did an episode on the timing of a dropped vs. fired .45acp bullet hitting the ground. A .45acp was fired from a perfectly level (by laser I believe)) rest while another was dropped at the same time (after several attempts at perfect timing via video). Relevancy for this discussion is the .45acp was fired inside an old government aircraft building, so the distance for a 9mm (when fired perfectly level) would probably not be outside the realm of this kind of test environment/results. A Google or YouTube search may result in something on the 9MM's maximum degree of incline vs. distance.kramden said:
JFB
Hunter
this discussion reminded me...
several decades back, I mounted and zeroed a scope on a guys 35Rem. It took a while discussing ballistics to convience him this was not a long range gun. He grasped it when I told him out to 125 yards the impact would be anywhere between 4" high to low, out past that the bullet would drop like a rock.
I heard that he was spouting off his newly learn knowledge and to show his point took aim and shot at his truck. While there was a puff of dust before the truck where the bullet hit the ground, the door glass shattered from the ricochette
several decades back, I mounted and zeroed a scope on a guys 35Rem. It took a while discussing ballistics to convience him this was not a long range gun. He grasped it when I told him out to 125 yards the impact would be anywhere between 4" high to low, out past that the bullet would drop like a rock.
I heard that he was spouting off his newly learn knowledge and to show his point took aim and shot at his truck. While there was a puff of dust before the truck where the bullet hit the ground, the door glass shattered from the ricochette
JFB said:
This reminds me of a story a friend who piloted nearly 500 missions in Viet Nam. He had landed for an evacuation and out of the woods comes Viet Cong with rifle raised. He said the Viet Cong weren't very educated and learned to lead helicopters by pictographs. He watched him aim and fire beside him with no hits. He thought he was invincable at that point anyway. Said he would have gone for another 500 missions if he didn't time out.
