Hard rubber or plastic?

Bob Wright

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The comments were made on this forum recently regarding the grips on Ruger Single Actions. When I bought my first Ruger (1958) the grips were stated as being "hard rubber." This was the original grip material of the Colt Single Action.

But recently they have been described as "plastic." So, were the 1958 vintage hard rubber, or plastic? And if, indeed they were hard rubber then, what are they now, hard rubber or plastic?

Matters not to me, mine are all wood.

Bob Wright
 
well it is all in the "semantics" but in truth, rubber that is hardened is "plasticised" the rubber of old Colts and such was pretty much "rubber" , it was actually 'gutta percha' a form of rubber.......old man Ruger called his grips "hard rubber", cause "they put plastic ones on cap guns.." I do quote Mr Ruger.........yes, the first, early grips used by Ruger on their RST's ,semi autos, it was 'rubber' , called ""butaprene",the Single Sixes ala 1953-54, they"hardened" the material used for the SingleSix and the flatop 357's, heard tell the first ones they put on the 44 flatop, did not fare well, broke, and hurt the shooter,so went to walnuts the next week??)last week of Nov 1955, and the first week of Dec. or was it 1956?? I was a young lad, and 'ferget' 8)
One of the Dr types we worked with at GE , who used to chat with us from time to time taught "polymers" in college, worked for Goodyear or Firestone it was , here in Akron,Ohio and went back and forth from GE Plastics to our plant at Nela Park, and yes, he was a 'gun nut' so we'd talk, he told us, as to the process of rubber being "plasticised" ( hardened) and I bet you could Google it.....rubber, too soft, wore and warped, plastic too hard chipped, so there has to be a proper middle..years ago I spoke with the folks up at Bar S grips over in Evergreen Wa. they "poured" ( molded) grips and did a fine , dandy job, made "ivory " like grips in about 5 shades of "ivory" and we liked them........also knew the first owner of Ajax Grips , years ago, and they made LOTS and lots, still do today, and yes "polymer" is pretty good stuff, "on paper"....... 8) :roll: :wink:
so call them what you want, makes no matter to many of us, heck, the new ones, some folks call "cheese graters" ........................ :)
 
I've always liked the Colt grips - of all generations but especially 1st and 2nd. To me they"re sorta iconic. It's what Ruger sought to emulate in the 50s, then more recently again (in addition to being cheap to produce too I'm sure). But especially the recent years' ones IMO are too aggressive (thus the affectionate "cheese grater" description :) )

Hard rubber or not--probably not--all I know is that you can make the current Rugers "more hard rubber or gutta percha like" taking the plasticky-ness down a bit with some rigorous 00/000 wool over a wastebasket, sort of exposing a bit more rubber nature (talking degrees here), while also knocking down the aggressive high points--to whatever degree you want--which are the main reason for folks' displeasure with them. Depending how much you do, they still look new but without the plasticky sheen. Less than half hour total per panel, including masking the metal parts (I do it on the gun, easier for me--gives you something to hold onto). Sows ear into (more of) a silk purse! Still make for some good "working" grips. I swap them back on (from some nice custom woods and elks) for rough campin' and woodsin' duty. But they're still too slim for even my smallish hnds. The main thing is they're missing much profile - the Colt "bell" contour. Never found any of the Colts, including the smaller 1st's, to be that way so don't know why Ruger felt compelled to reinvent that wheel.
 
I remember when I was a youngster many toys were made from "hard rubber" or celluloid. I had a small scale replica of a .45 Automatic made of hard rubber. I played with this and somehow broke the forward part of the slide off.
It was solid, non-working pistol, so we had to use our imagination.

Celluloid toys were more fun, as they went up in flames at the slightest hint of fire. Sometimes a burning boat, floating in a wash tub, would skoot around as it burned, propelled by a sort of jet effect.

Bob Wright
 
I reckon I was thinking hard rubber vs. plastic in that hard rubber was made from natural resins, as opposed to plastics being synthetic resins.

Sort of the way I think of varnish, Damar gum vs. polyurethane.

Bob Wright
 
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