Hands on real 50th anniversery mod 10 22

[bentblade]

Went to a shooting fair where all the manufactures bring out the new mod gun to shoot.
There they had the new 50th anniversary 10 22, the contest winner.
I didn't shoot it but got to hold and play with it for a few mins. I personally wasn't all that impressed. The gun just felt a little odd. I have an American 22 bolt action and that might be part of the problem. This gun just doesn't have that solid feeling the American does. It is lite but slightly muzzle heavy.
On the bright side the sight picture is better than I thought it would be. The front blade and wings are thinner than on the mini's and looked pretty good to my old eyes. Down side the scope base and rear sight are two pieces and the sight is held on by one screw. I would have preferred a solid on piece sight and scope base.
The funny thing was this gun wasn't getting much attention, in fact I was the only one who picked it up. Most of the people were looking at pistols and center fire rifles. The only other 10 22 I saw being handled was a take down mod.
Ill be waiting to see what others have to say.

 

[9x19]

Haven't seen one yet, except for pictures, but it's not something I would pay extra for.

I might like the stock, as I like those on my RARs, but the proof would be in the hands.

I've already picked up a "stainless" 10/22 with the 50th anniversary markings...

 

[bentblade]

Local shop taking "pre orders" at $319.00

 

[Ruger45]

I have one on order but have yet to see one.

 

[jjas]

According to this post on Gunbroker.com this shop has 2 for sale....I would assume more will be available shortly everywhere.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=420758838

 

[cyphertext]

According to this post on Gunbroker.com this shop has 2 for sale....I would assume more will be available shortly everywhere.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=420758838

Considering that he is using stock photos and that the winner of the contest said on another forum that he has not went to the factory to see the first run yet, I'm willing to bet that this Gunbroker dealer is blowing smoke.

Until Gary has one in his hands, I doubt anyone else will have one...

 

[benchrest500]

So we know I have them now,,

Sorry I don't take kind to being called a liar

 

[cyphertext]

Here is your smoke jack A$$

Don't know who Gary is but he's late to the party,,,

Sorry I don't take kind to being called a liar

Gary is the person who won the design contest. As part of his prize package, Ruger was to bring him to the factory to see the production run, as well as give him one of the production rifles. As of June 3rd, this has not happened yet, and the Ruger CEO and VP told him that the rifle would likely be in stores in July.

There have been dealers claim to have these, only to find out they are taking orders for when they get them. Based on that info posted by Gary in other forums, plus the lack of actual photos of the rifle on your posting, surely you can see why I questioned it.

It does appear that you have some on the way from a distributor, but not in hand at this time.

 

[ArmedinAZ]

You seem to be on a first name basis with the contest winner. The rifles are being sold to the public, so did the winner get stood up by Ruger? Over on RFC he stated on 6/3 he hadn't been contacted by Ruger yet to go to the factory for the first run.... :?

 

[benchrest500]

I am not the only shop with these rifles there are at least 3 other dealers on GB that have them and in hand since they have got personal pictures posted.

My 3 won't be here until Monday or Tuesday and at that time I will post personal pictures of them.

have not looked at other online sites but I'm sure there are more on the web

I am also sure these WILL be in demand and it will be one of those demand exceeding supply things

 

[cyphertext]

You seem to be on a first name basis with the contest winner. The rifles are being sold to the public, so did the winner get stood up by Ruger? Over on RFC he stated on 6/3 he hadn't been contacted by Ruger yet to go to the factory for the first run.... :?

Yep, it appears that Ruger left him hanging.

Benchrest500, I apologize. You are correct, they are showing up at Cabela's and other stores. I assumed that the contest winner would be one of the first with the rifle that he designed, but apparently not.

 

[ArmedinAZ]

You seem to be on a first name basis with the contest winner. The rifles are being sold to the public, so did the winner get stood up by Ruger? Over on RFC he stated on 6/3 he hadn't been contacted by Ruger yet to go to the factory for the first run.... :?

Yep, it appears that Ruger left him hanging.

Benchrest500, I apologize. You are correct, they are showing up at Cabela's and other stores. I assumed that the contest winner would be one of the first with the rifle that he designed, but apparently not.

That sucks. I didn't like the way he won even though you say that's how things are these days, but that doesn't change the apparent fact that Ruger made a commitment to the winner of their contest and failed. Uncool. We'll have to hear what he has to say. One would hope he at least gets the first one off the line.

Edit: A post he made on RFC this morning indicates Ruger forgot him.

 

[benchrest500]

You seem to be on a first name basis with the contest winner. The rifles are being sold to the public, so did the winner get stood up by Ruger? Over on RFC he stated on 6/3 he hadn't been contacted by Ruger yet to go to the factory for the first run.... :?

Yep, it appears that Ruger left him hanging.

Benchrest500, I apologize. You are correct, they are showing up at Cabela's and other stores. I assumed that the contest winner would be one of the first with the rifle that he designed, but apparently not.

That sucks. I didn't like the way he won even though you say that's how things are these days, but that doesn't change the apparent fact that Ruger made a commitment to the winner of their contest and failed. Uncool. We'll have to hear what he has to say. One would hope he at least gets the first one off the line.

Edit: A post he made on RFC this morning indicates Ruger forgot him.

Ruger is publicly traded now so unless you have a sizable amount of stock you are not important to them.

 

[ArmedinAZ]

Part of the advertised grand prize was a trip to see the first production run of the rifles being made. Ruger made the offer and should have lived up to it, had nothing to do with how much stock the guy has.

 

[benchrest500]

had nothing to do with how much stock the guy has.

Think the point blazed past you there,,

bottom line white collar don't care unless it cuts into the black,,

Cut into the black and you will have their full undivided attention,,

The campaign served it's purpose and wowed some potential buyers of products,
Ruger got what they wanted from the deal no need to pay up,,

So if this gets out and public opinion on the web starts to turn angry at Ruger over it some guy in P.R. will get blasted into gear to do clean up,,

Otherwise they won't even blink,,

Ruger has been swallowed by corporate America

They have been pushing bottom dollar for the past few years giving us dealers incentives to buy and sell
the "sweet spot" is around their plastic guns
easy and cheap to make,, better profit margin

You have to buy 15 MK3 to get a free gun and you will NEVER get them in the allotted time
even if you did the free gun will be a Raspberry (not even an attractive raspberry) piece of crap LCP or LC9
You only have to buy 10 LC or SR pistols/revolvers to get a free one
then in the fall we get points for selling and the points are based higher around LC and SR pistols/revolvers

Ruger has gotten too confident in recent years and could stand to see a sharp decline in sales to slap them into attention.

Just my 2 cents

 

[9x19]

LGS had one on the shelf this morning... asking $339.

I liked the stock, the rest I have no need for... an XS style peep rear and winged front sight, Ruger's OEM flash hider (just sold three of those) and an extended pic-style rail (OK, I like those too :mrgreen: but don't see the need for the extended portion on the front ~ Weaver's rail has always been fine for my uses).

I left it there for the next buyer who might need/want all the add-ons.

 

[ArmedinAZ]

had nothing to do with how much stock the guy has.

Think the point blazed past you there,,

Ruger has gotten too confident in recent years and could stand to see a sharp decline in sales to slap them into attention.

Just my 2 cents

Think you could take a lesson in civility,,

If you're so unhappy with Ruger stop selling them. That will teach them.

JM2C

 

[mohavesam]

The "free gun" programs you speak of are Distributor programs, NOT Ruger factory sales programs. Your beef is with the distributor(s).

As for the "Gary in MI" contest winner, I agree fulfilling the contest winner terms is not a business priority for Ruger. - WHY would anyone be surprised by this result ??
Why would he wait around six months to be contacted anyway?
Anyone have a copy of those contest terms lying around?
Then again, the guy could have something preventing him from being able to visit a gun factory in a state or federal effect - remember Ruger is a DoD contractor.

 

[benchrest500]

The "free gun" programs you speak of are Distributor programs, NOT Ruger factory sales programs. Your beef is with the distributor(s).

Dead WRONG
I participate in the programs each year and they are NOT a distributor program it IS through Ruger
Free gun for 4R even ships from Ruger

The Jan-May program (buying) is from Ruger but handled by your distributor
you can NOT combine programs with different distributors
I can buy LCRs from Sports South and from Zanders but they do not combine for a total
So maybe that is where you are misguided but the program is through Ruger and identical at each distributor

TRUST ME I have gotten a LOT of free guns.

The fall 4R program (selling) is for selling and is handled directly by Ruger

Think you could take a lesson in civility,,

If you're so unhappy with Ruger stop selling them. That will teach them.

JM2C

They sell very well for us but fact is since the public trading they have lost touch with the public as a company
Granted it's been crazy lately but hire a P.R. debt to keep the relationship

 

[mohavesam]

Take my name from your quote - not my words.

My experience is with distributors' programs. Ease up on the caffeine.

 

[CraigC]

had nothing to do with how much stock the guy has.

Think the point blazed past you there,,

bottom line white collar don't care unless it cuts into the black,,

Cut into the black and you will have their full undivided attention,,

The campaign served it's purpose and wowed some potential buyers of products,
Ruger got what they wanted from the deal no need to pay up,,

So if this gets out and public opinion on the web starts to turn angry at Ruger over it some guy in P.R. will get blasted into gear to do clean up,,

Otherwise they won't even blink,,

Ruger has been swallowed by corporate America

They have been pushing bottom dollar for the past few years giving us dealers incentives to buy and sell
the "sweet spot" is around their plastic guns
easy and cheap to make,, better profit margin

You have to buy 15 MK3 to get a free gun and you will NEVER get them in the allotted time
even if you did the free gun will be a Raspberry (not even an attractive raspberry) piece of crap LCP or LC9
You only have to buy 10 LC or SR pistols/revolvers to get a free one
then in the fall we get points for selling and the points are based higher around LC and SR pistols/revolvers

Ruger has gotten too confident in recent years and could stand to see a sharp decline in sales to slap them into attention.

Just my 2 cents

What a load of crap and yes, you do need a lesson in civility. Were I local to you, I would not be patronizing your shop.

 

[cyphertext]

The "free gun" programs you speak of are Distributor programs, NOT Ruger factory sales programs. Your beef is with the distributor(s).

As for the "Gary in MI" contest winner, I agree fulfilling the contest winner terms is not a business priority for Ruger. - WHY would anyone be surprised by this result ??
Why would he wait around six months to be contacted anyway?
Anyone have a copy of those contest terms lying around?
Then again, the guy could have something preventing him from being able to visit a gun factory in a state or federal effect - remember Ruger is a DoD contractor.

I don't know Gary personally, just from forums... but from his postings on forums, he didn't just "wait around six months to be contacted". He was at the Shot Show, at both the Appleseed Project and the Ruger booth. The VP and CEO gave him estimated dates and advised that he would be contacted as the date grew closer to arrange to be at the factory for the production run. He is also to get one of the rifles, as well as $5000 worth of other Ruger merchandise. One would assume that since he was the contest winner, he would get one of the first rifles off the line. The rules state he gets a production rifle, so I guess many assumed too much.

The complete rules can be found here: http://www.ruger.com/micros/1022_50/Official_Rules.pdf

 

[benchrest500]

What a load of crap and yes, you do need a lesson in civility. Were I local to you, I would not be patronizing your shop.

OK so what is your take on why they left the guy hanging?
Pretty basic follow up,,
make good on their promise,,,,

So?????

As for civility???
I speak my mind thought that was my right?

Whats wrong with that?
Sorry I am not a Democrat, did not mean to offend one.

 

[benchrest500]

Take my name from your quote - not my words.

My experience is with distributors' programs. Ease up on the caffeine.

Sorry, fixed it


The distributor programs ARE through Ruger, distributor is the middle man for Ruger
The PDF forms are from Ruger and the same for each distributor, dates are same quantities the same,,
Just can NOT combine purchases from different distributors
I can buy 10 LCP from Bangers and get a free gun
Then buy 10 LCP from Lipseys and get a free gun
BUT I can NOT buy 5 LCP from Bangers and 5 from Lipseys and get a free gun

Ruger will not allow a distributor to lower a price below minimum wholesale without some very special circumstances which I've seen only once
ANY "deals" on Ruger are ONLY through Ruger
I have never seen or even heard of otherwise and been an FFL since 94

 

[ArmedinAZ]

As for civility???
I speak my mind thought that was my right?

Whats wrong with that?
Sorry I am not a Democrat, did not mean to offend one.

When someone says they speak their mind it usually means they're giving themself permission to be rude. Absolutely your right. Carry on.

From Ruger's oficial rules of this contest:

The Grand Prize Winner, upon proper verification, will
receive $5,000 to spend on Ruger® product, one (1) production version of the Design Submission
rifle, and a trip for two (2) people to the New Hampshire (the “Location”) plant for the
production run (includes roundtrip economy airfare for two people and one night hotel
accommodations to be determined by the Sponsor).

In the overall scheme of things how hard is it for Ruger to provide what they offered? Worth the potential for negative publilcity in the enthusiast forums? You honestly think Ruger went into this contest with no intention of giving the guy air fare and a hotel room? To be fair, the rules don't specifically say "first production run" so there's still time. This guy apparently knows how to get things done online, he could probably raise a bigger stink that Ruger would like if he so chooses...

I'd rather think someone at Ruger dropped the ball but then simple things just seem to blaze by me....

 

[benchrest500]

What a load of crap and yes, you do need a lesson in civility. Were I local to you, I would not be patronizing your shop.

Also wanted to point out,,

IF Ruger is such a "Stand Up" company explain these,,

Kel-Tec P3AT and Ruger LCP
Kel-Tec PF9 and Ruger LC9
Walther P22 and Ruger SR22P

We all know the argument "You can't afford to fight us in court"

Why be original when you can copy??!!

Just what has Ruger come up with on their own in recent years??
The LCR and SR9, 40 and 45 is about it,,
Great guns but why copy Kel-Tec and Walther on the others?
then it was "Hey lets jump on the 1911 and AR band wagon"
I myself have wondered for years WHY there is not an 8" Hunter version of the GP100

And another on civility, the whole reason I even posted in this thread is on page one
where I was accused of blowing smoke having these rifles so YES my tone overall may not have been as friendly as it could have.

Bottom line Ruger should have done more for the guy since as it looks MANY will have this rifle before he does.

So this has strayed a LOT from topic and seems I'm just ticking people off so let's all just focus on topic again and I will stand down.

 

[cyphertext]

And another on civility, the whole reason I even posted in this thread is on page one
where I was accused of blowing smoke having these rifles so YES my tone overall may not have been as friendly as it could have.

I was wrong and I apologized for that on page one as well....

Anyway, since you have these in hand now, what do you think? How does the action mount in the stock? Is the barrel free floated, like the American Rimfire?

 

[benchrest500]

And another on civility, the whole reason I even posted in this thread is on page one
where I was accused of blowing smoke having these rifles so YES my tone overall may not have been as friendly as it could have.

I was wrong and I apologized for that on page one as well....

Anyway, since you have these in hand now, what do you think? How does the action mount in the stock? Is the barrel free floated, like the American Rimfire?

Saw the apology and I guess I never addressed it. THANKS

It is 10-22 all the way, same one bolt mounting
Stock makes contact down the sides but I would not say the barrel is supported by it although I would not say it's free either
The whole top sight rail piece is mounted to standard factory tapped holes so you could remove it and mount it on any 10-22

My guess they will make the "Kit" available once these die down on sales
It's Ruger they want to sell you a new gun until the public don't want anymore 11173 rifles
Then they will at least try to sell the kit

Overall it's a cool package if you are into that style rifle, myself I go for the English walnut 10-22 models
We try to keep the cool wood rifles here and not so much plastic
Typical models we keep are 1297 1102 (not 1103) 1264 1265 11104 stuff like that
We try to be higher end and have stuff that a dealer has to dig for if he wants it

Like today I got an TALO IWO Colt 1911 and we have a TALO Royal Colt in here had a couple of tier 3 Colts last week
Birds head Bearcats just sold the last one yesterday
Got a 454 Alaskan,,,
4" 500
5" 460
List goes on,,

We just want to have stuff you don't see in EVERY shop,,

And walk in customers pay 10% over cost,, we're pretty popular and that is why I took Offense earlier.

Still does not change my opinion on Ruger as a company headed in the wrong direction
I think the board is now more focused on what new Yacht do I need and is my Bentley getting too old after all it is almost one year old,,,

I lost a LOT of respect when they copied Kel-Tec not so much on Walther since I'm not fond of them either
Reminds me of school and the teacher saying "keep your eyes on your own paper"
I don't see anything Kel-Tec ripped off,, I have much more respect for them than Ruger as a company.

 

[9x19]

The one I looked at today... the rear sight appeared to be mounted behind the pic rail with a single screw... didn't look like a part of the rail.

 

[benchrest500]

The one I looked at today... the rear sight appeared to be mounted behind the pic rail with a single screw... didn't look like a part of the rail.

So everyone on this site have trust issues? :wink:

Just remember from a manufacturing standpoint that old saying "keep it simple stupid"

Simple saves time which saves $$ and buys another boy up in the tower a new Bentley,,