Duluth Trading is not what it used to be although they are still very proud of their merchandise if you go by the prices. My son-in-law was buying pants there but they kept getting thinner and more cheaply made. They used to hold up very well; now they rip out in the crotch and other seams at a much faster rate. Also they used to replace items if they wore prematurely ( within a year I think) Now they say sorry it's normal wear even after a few months. He has a desk job so no rough use. We got him several pairs of other brands for Christmas to try.