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4521dln

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I have reloaded for various(many) rifle caliber for years. I have been reloading, for my 3 44 mags for aprox 3 years. For the 44's I have allways used jacketed bullets. I am somewhat interested in trying lead bullets. I have 2 Ruger Redhawks (7 1/2 and 4" barrel) and a 7 1/2" Super Redhawk. Do I understand it correctly that the first step would be to slug the barrels of each of my revolvers? Also I am the family's designated reloader, my brother has a Smith & Wesson 629 44 mag. I would have to think it is very unlikely that all four would have the same bore diameter. I would not venture into loading lead bullets if it requires several differant bullet diameters. Iam I on the right track?
 
4521dln said:
Do I understand it correctly that the first step would be to slug the barrels of each of my revolvers? Also I am the family's designated reloader, my brother has a Smith & Wesson 629 44 mag. I would have to think it is very unlikely that all four would have the same bore diameter. I would not venture into loading lead bullets if it requires several differant bullet diameters. Iam I on the right track?

Hi,

Might be overthinking things a touch, depending on what you're trying to achieve...

If you want ammo that goes off, shoots reasonably well, and functions in all the guns, you can start off w/ the old "rule of thumb" that lead bullets should be sized 0.001" over what jacketed ones are, so you're jacketed .44s are probably .429", making .430" a starting point for lead.

Now, figure what kind of load you want: a really light one (perhaps .44 Spl level) might work w/ a faster powder, but a medium to slower powder will probably do you better w/ mid- to top-level .44 Mag loads. Personally, I don't load lead to top levels, but some folks do. That's up to you.

Load some, go shoot 'em, and watch carefully for what happens. Are they accurate enough? Do they shoot cleanly enough w/o any excessive leading? Do they function well in all the family's guns? If the answers are "yes" to all these, load some more and don't spend too much time and energy fretting the details.

OTOH, if they're all over the paper (or worse), lead like crazy, stick cases or otherwise don't function properly, THEN it's time to get out the magnifying glass as it were and examine the finer points. Slugging the barrels is one of them, especially if leading is a problem (for example, if you're using too fast a powder w/ an "undersized"--for the barrel--bullet, you might have a serious mess going on in that barrel.) Horrible accuracy can sometimes be from driving a bullet too hard (for example, loading copper PLATED bullets--quite soft, actually--w/ copper JACKETED data designed for the much harder bullet.) And on and on!

Sometimes you'll hit on something right out of the chute, other times there's a bit of a learning curve. For starters, if you haven't visited them already, the guys at http://www.castboolits.gunloads.com and http://www.lasc.us have tons of info that might help.

Best of luck--using lead bullets can be quite rewarding, sometimes frustrating, but worth learning about! Even more so when faced w/ the kinds of short supplies we're seeing right now...

Rick C
 
I forgot to include the intended use of the load. Last year we started deer hunting with handguns (in missouri) and we occasionally go pig hunting in Texas and Oaklahoma. Would a 250gr to 300gr bullet be right for my needs? What about bullet hardness?
 
Rule of thumb; size bullets to the same size as the cylinder throats (ie.; my Ruger, and 629 have .431 cylinder throats so all my bullets are sized .431"). This will give a bullet to gun fit that will eliminate leading. When I get my hands on a new-to-me gun I swage the barrel (for information on groove diameter, bore finish, and restrictions if any), and measure the cylinder throats. The throats must be larger than the groove diameter to allow the bullet to completely seal, eliminating leading.
 
Go right to www.PennBullets.com
or
Beartooth Bullets
or
Cast Performance

Buy a 'standard' bullet.
Don't buy thousands; buy some to test.

Recommend a bullet weight minimum of 255g. Suggest for 1000--1200fps using HS6. For higher velocities use W296, H110, or AA9.

Recommend deer/pig ammo use a 255-280g over HS6 for 1100--1200fps. If very long ranges are expected use higher velocity.
 
Shoot as big a boolit as will chamber reliably in all the revolvers .

430 is a good place to start if ya don`t have the corrct tools to measure em.

My Redhawk settles down real nice with 18gr. 2400 under a 429421 around 10 bhn & it`ll kill deer & pigs.
 

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