Colorado Wolves
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Gosh, who could have predicted that might happen?
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bobsyouruncle
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Its a mystery
DeletedMember275
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Wait'll they start raiding urban areas and eating Fluffy and Tabby...
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bobsyouruncle
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Don't worry, you'll never hear about it
Wow.
Nah, coyotes are already taking care of those.
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contender
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It never ceases to amaze me at the ignorance of some people.
Our great country is not the same as it was 100, 200 300 or more years ago.
Yet,, some people are hell-bent on trying to make the wildlife like it was back then.
So many differences in then & now make this an unrealistic goal.
And yet,, they push forward with their warped agenda.
Our great country is not the same as it was 100, 200 300 or more years ago.
Yet,, some people are hell-bent on trying to make the wildlife like it was back then.
So many differences in then & now make this an unrealistic goal.
And yet,, they push forward with their warped agenda.
Feel the 'Pane
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I do need a new hat...
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bobsyouruncle
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buckeyeshooter
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SSS
spud711
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They put all of the wolves in Yellowstone in 1995. Whoever thought they would leave and establish new packs. I DID!
spud711
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It's kind of different now. Namely people and livestock where the country was wild.
epags
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Strategy is not good in this case.....the wolves are all collared and normally when they die a signal alerts the CPW.
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Geist is a deer biologist.
A couple of facts from a retired wildlife biologist who lives in wolf country.
1. The Endangered Species Act and all listings thereunder that I have seen, written, or worked under allow for defense of life and property.
2. We had a pack ~6 miles south of town. In ~4 years, that pack was observed feeding on ONE steer, despite living adjacent to farm and ranch land and numerous homes. That steer was determined to have been roadkill. That moved to the Teanaway River area after the alpha female there was poached. One livestock fatality was reported - a steer on a Federal grazing lease. This was despite the fact that three generations of sheep and cattle had been grazed on that lease. Wolves were seen almost daily by outriders. That rancher, a third-generation leaseholder, has been reimbursed and is pro-wolf.
You can access monthly reports on all packs in WA State at this site:
https://wdfw.wa.gov/species-habitats/at-risk/species-recovery/gray-wolf/packs/columbia
Teanaway Pack (near Cle Elum, WA):
https://www.timberwolfinformation.o...-seems-fine-to-stay-put-no-attacks-confirmed/
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...bound-range-riders-keep-watch-over-livestock/
https://conservationnw.org/news-upd...onfirmed-within-territory-of-teanaway-wolves/
Malaga/Naneum pack: (Note I've known Gregg Kurz for 20 years. He works for USFWS as a predator specialist in the Central Washington Field Office)
https://www.yoursourceone.com/colum...cle_55ea847e-1548-11ea-9c15-4ba35d95b479.html
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Years ago a guy bought a twenty acre parcel about 5 miles west of my place, he stopped by and introduced himself and said he was working on his doctoral thesis in comparative, bla, bla, blah. I never thought much about it until one day I was out walking around my property and was charged by two large wolf hybrids. They charged down the hill at me and I drew and fired my 44 in front of them, the dirt it kicked up and the large muzzel flash must have changed their minds, they ran down the road towards their home, I fired again behind them and they accelerated I got in my truck and chased them all the way to their home, when I got there I could see the guy had build a large circular pen and there were four hybrids in the pen eating a dead deer and another three out side, all now howling at me. The guy wasn't around, so I went home and started calling around. I called the university and asked about grad students working on a wolf study, no one knew anything and had never heard of the guy. A couple of days later I stopped him on the road and told him about the encounter, I told him people have the right to shoot roaming dogs and he told me that if I shot his wolves he would kill me, I thanked him for the warning and told him that if I had to shoot one I knew what to expect from him and would deal with him accordingly.
The best part about wolves in Colorado---Oregon gave them 10 or 15 of ours. :)
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Irrelevant as they were hybrids: Neither wolf nor dog! Example why people should not have wild animals! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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bobsyouruncle
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The story is relevant and inspirational for me
contender
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"It's kind of different now. Namely people and livestock where the country was wild."
My point exactly. Times, populations, and human construction of all kinds. They have altered the land to where animals used to be "in the wild" so to speak.
My point exactly. Times, populations, and human construction of all kinds. They have altered the land to where animals used to be "in the wild" so to speak.
Two days ago, they just killed four more cattle. Who could have predicted that? I always love how people can vote on things that won't impact them at all.
settup6
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Wolves in northern Colorado are ranging into areas where humans camp and hike, and that does seem dangerous. When using these areas, I think I would leave my small children at home. It just seems too risky and not very well thought out by state government.
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You have any reports to link???? I'd like to see them. I do know dogs do more damage to livestock and wolves are often to blame. Not saying that's the case, just want to read something about it.
carbonfibrebob
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carbonfibrebob
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No big deal, the governor's "husband" doesn't like meat eaters anyway
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bobsyouruncle
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bobsyouruncle
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Balance of nature is a real thing. Natural selection is a real thing. I'm not so sure introducing wolves that are now feeding on introduced animals (cattle) is such a good idea. I'm guessing that when there is a human fatality their fate will get decided. Rabies is a real thing as well.
Xrayist
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I live in Colorado. I personally think that this was a very stupid use of taxpayer dollars. Wolves are in Wyoming and nothing was stopping them from walking across the border into Colorado. To pay to import wolves, was IMO, idiotic. Now there was talk of re-introducing wolverines into Colorado. Personally, if Colorado is going to keep doing such things, then why stop with the "amateur league"......re-introduce grizzlies to Colorado, places like Rocky Mountain National Park would be a good start. Give tourists, and residents, a bit more excitment when camping, hiking, picnicing, or just plain sightseeing while visiting!
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bobsyouruncle
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All at a time when Colorado legislators are trying to enact stricker gun laws and gun bans. defend yourselves against an attack by a wolf pack with bear spray
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