Behavioral problems in children..............

Bob Wright

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Local sanitorium is advertising on TV that they now have workers who can help correct behavioral problems in children.

My Mama had that ability over eighty years ago! (I was the last of five children. She had plenty of practice. And apparently I was the most trying of that practice!)

Years ago my mother took us to church in Washington, D.C. where President Truman attended, a Baptist church. (I was very young then.) As we entered, an usher suggested my mother send me to "children's church" should I misbehave in church. It was the very first time I ever heard of "children's church" and felt pretty insulted.

My mother glared at him and said, "My son knows how to behave in church." And I did, for I knew the consequences of not doing so!


Bob Wright
 
Yes, my mother had a way of just cutting eyes/giving a stern look when I was growing up and that’s all it ever took (and prob still would do it)!
 
Mobuck said:
A solid butt whuppin usually works.

More of that is surely needed , When I was coming up our School Principal kept a Paddle in his office , Hand made in our own Woodshop , I received the full benefit only once of its corrective properties , Set me straight.
Then there's the whuppin I got when I got home , You see back then the Principal not only knew your Mom and Dad he remembered them from back when they were his students .
 
My parents spanked me. They didn't beat me, because I earned every spanking. I turned out pretty good I think.

My boys were spanked when they earned it. They turned out okay.

There is the old saying "Spare the rod, spoil the child" too bad today's parents have either never heard it or forgotten it.
 
The other day, I read that a methamphetamine lab had been found in an
old farm house in a nearby county and asked a buddy of mine a rhetorical
question, "Why didn't we have a drug problem when you and I were
growing up?"

Here is his reply:

I did have a drug problem when I was a kid growing up on the farm.

I was drug to church on Sunday morning.

I was drug to church for weddings and funerals.

I was drug to family reunions and community socials no matter the weather.

I was drug by my ears when I was disrespectful to adults.

I was also drug to the woodshed when I disobeyed, told a lie, brought
home a bad report card, did not speak with respect, spoke ill of the
teacher or the preacher, or if I didn't put forth my best effort in
everything that was asked of me.

I was drug to the kitchen sink if I uttered a profane word. (I DO know
what soap tastes like.)

I was drug out to pull weeds in mom's garden and flower beds and mow
the grass, take out the trash and clean up after the family.

I was drug to the homes of family, friends, and neighbors to help out
some poor soul who had no one to mow the yard, fix their deck, or chop
some fire wood.

If my mother had ever known that I took a single dime as a tip for this
kindness, she would have drug me back to the woodshed!

Those drugs are still in my veins; and they affect my behavior in
everything I do, say, and think. They are stronger than cocaine, crack
or heroin, and if today's children had this kind of drug problem,
America would be a better place to live.
 
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Coach, Vice Principal, Principal and Dad set me stight.Would not consider teaching public school these days, punks have nothing to answer for
 
I was walking through the local supermarket the other day when I saw a grandfather walking around with his 2 year old grandson. It was obvious that the grandpa wasn't having an easy time of it, with the siren-like voice of his cherished youngling scaling upwards every time candy or toys came into view.

The grandfather, however, kept his cool, and intoned softly to the child: "Jimmy, relax, it won't take long."

When the screaming didn't stop, the grandpa continued: "Jimmy, there's no reason to get angry, try to enjoy this walk and in a minute we'll be on the way home, promise."

When I came out of the store I saw them in the parking lot, the child screaming and the older man still talking softly and quiety to him. I couldn't help myself. I walked over to him.

"Sir," I said, "I have to say you are an amazing grandfather. The way you talk to the boy and keep your calm despite all of this screaming - Jimmy's a lucky kid to have a grandpa like you."

"Thanks," said the grandfather, "but I'm Jimmy. This little bugger's name is Anthony."
 
The cause of every whippin I got as a kid now apparently has a drug associated with it to correct.
 
One of my workers tells everyone wow "ornery" his little granddaughter is. She bites, kick, head butts, pulls hair, etc. for no reason. He acts as if it's funny. I suggested she needs a seat warming. I know I wouldn't put up with it. Neither would my parents.
 
A couple of weeks ago my 10 year old girl cut her thumb badly while opening a can of Vienna sausage at about 9:00 p.m. So off we went to the E.R. We got back from the hospital at about 4:00 a.m. The next morning our 4 year old boy had a soccer game at 9:00 a.m.. We got up & took him. Another boy on his team was crying & throwing himself on the ground because he didn't get his way.

About half way through the game our boy went to the coach & asked if he could take a break as he was tired. The other boys mother looked at him & said, "Wow Zach so this is you tired & with no sleep." I told my wife this was the result of us going through the hassle of dealing with that kind of behavior at home. I honestly don't have to whip little boy often. Different punishments work with different kids. I just try to find what is most effective for each.
 
My dad was actually the most diabolical person in the world when it came to punishment. A quick swat to correct behavior wasn't uncommon, but for larger offenses he was a master at punishment.

As an example, I was 5 maybe 6 and did something, no idea what it was now. He had an old white picket fence that came for heaven only knows where stacked in the back yard. It was going to be burned next winter as firewood (yea, probably lead based paint and all).

At any rate, my punishment was to remove every nail and straighten them for reuse later (probably never did). Pull it, straighten it, put it into a 3# coffee can. He checked, and if they weren't straight they were put into another can to be re-straightened.

I mashed more than one thumb on that job let me tell you. While not in my dad's class, I came up with a few for my boys they will never forget. A quick spanking has a beneficial effect. But a punishment that goes on for days/weeks makes one heck of a life long impression.
 
Jeepnik said:
My dad was actually the most diabolical person in the world when it came to punishment. A quick swat to correct behavior wasn't uncommon, but for larger offenses he was a master ate punishment.

As an example, I was 5 maybe 6 and did something, no idea what it was now. He had an old white picket fence that came for heaven only knows where stacked in the back yard. It was going to be burned next winter as firewood (yea, probably lead based paint and all).

At any rate, my punishment was to remove every nail and straighten them for reuse later (probably never did). Pull it, straighten it, put it into a 3# coffee can. He checked, and if they weren't straight they were put into another can to be re-straightened.

I mashed more than one thumb on that job let me tell you. While not in my dad's class, I came up with a few for my boys they will never forget. A quick spanking has a beneficial effect. But a punishment that goes on for days/weeks makes one heck of a life long impression.

I would have much preferred a few lashes of a belt. :lol:
 
Rocdoc said:
Coach, Vice Principal, Principal and Dad set me stight.Would not consider teaching public school these days, punks have nothing to answer for
When my wife was still teaching at a 'middle school' they needed substitutes. I said that perhaps i could do that on a limited basis. The wife laughed and said that I would be fired the first day. Some smart-mouthed kid would say something and I would literally drag his/her butt to the office and that would be the end of my teaching career. She said my upbringing and attitude would not be in line with the way some kids are today. Of course I went to a Catholic school and church and you just didn't misbehave in either.
 
As a parent of young children I can tell you what worked 20-30 years ago, or more, simply doesn't work today. Children are influenced in different ways, respond in different ways and have to be disciplined in different ways. For better or worse, you either leant how to adapt your discipline or have undisciplined children. Almost anything social and cultural on life is going to need adapting after decades of use.
 
Sorry ChiefMuzz, I have to disagree with you on this one..

The best Child Psychology you can buy.. And it always worked.. All you needed to do, was "adapt it to that ass"..

Paddle.png


Maybe if it was applied today, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in with what I call, "The Milk bottle Generation." You can thank the liberals like "Dr. Spock" who thought it was evil to spank a child.. It ruined a whole generation. And is continuing to do so..

Explanation on my "Milk Bottle Generation" comment..

Bottle.jpg
 
ChiefMuzz said:
As a parent of young children I can tell you what worked 20-30 years
ago, or more, simply doesn't work today.
How long have you been a democrat?

To say that each child will respond more in line with the desired end result,
is hard to argue with. To make a blanket statement that because something
was used twenty or thirty years ago, will not work, strongly implies a solid
lack of understanding, at least when it come to discipline.

{war-story}
Grand-son of a lady I dated has . . . never . . . been spanked. His mother
takes the time to work with the child, explain what is expected and why.
He then gets a "time out" where he gets to sit still, not hum or sing, not
play with any toys and can not lay down. For him, it works. That is the
best behaved kid I know of. He is the exception. {/war-story}

Most kids respond to the proper application of force to the seat of education.
In fact, very few do not. - - That dos NOT mean beat the child, but does
say appropriate levels of "incentive" can-be/are very effective.

If you have one that "forgets" the lesson, then punishment, in the form of
time occupying tasks can be, and very often are more effective than force
to the seat of education.

Amazing how you have to be a parent in more than name.
 
GP100 said:
Sorry ChiefMuzz, I have to disagree with you on this one..

The best Child Psychology you can buy.. And it always worked.. All you needed to do, was "adapt it to that ass"..

Paddle.png


Maybe if it was applied today, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in with what I call, "The Milk bottle Generation." You can thank the liberals like "Dr. Spock" who thought it was evil to spank a child.. It ruined a whole generation. And is continuing to do so..

Explanation on my "Milk Bottle Generation" comment..

Bottle.jpg

Dr Spock NOW admits he was 100% totally wrong about disciplining kids.
I don't think his turned out all that well.
 
ChiefMuzz said:
As a parent of young children I can tell you what worked 20-30 years ago, or more, simply doesn't work today. Children are influenced in different ways, respond in different ways and have to be disciplined in different ways. For better or worse, you either leant how to adapt your discipline or have undisciplined children. Almost anything social and cultural on life is going to need adapting after decades of use.

Sorry, I have to disagree with you. I've seen too many children whose worst punishment is a "time out." These are children who are generally undisciplined and generally obnoxious out in public, and their parents seem completely oblivious to their misbehavior.

We have parents of young children at my church, and their offspring know how to behave in church and in public in general. They know how to behave and know the consequences of misbehaving.


Bob Wright
 
I remember being a kid. I got whipped by my mom a lot. Not saying I didn't deserve it. I did but if I really wanted to do something the prospect of getting whipped would not stop me. Now when I was about 10 I didn't come home when I was called. My mother decided to embarrass me by whipping me in front of my friends. I was always big for my age. She wasn't a big woman. I laughed at her. The end result of this was from then on if I got in trouble instead of whipping me she took away privileges/used restriction. Standing on the edge of my yard bored to tears while all my friends played football down the street got my attention.

Now I am not saying I am against using a whipping when it is appropriate. I will do that if necessary but sometimes other things are more effective. I do make an effort though to never whip one of my kids when I'm angry. There were times my father would really lose his temper. A few of them I'm not really even sure if I did anything differently than any other day. I think I was just the straw that broke the camels back. Being consistent with my kids & making sure they know why they are being punished is really important to me.
 
In '74 I became close with a family who didn't believe in corporal punishment. A daughter got lost to drugs. A son was sent to the Big House for rape when he was about 20. Their other son conspired with a friend to shoot his Dad in the head with a .22 when his Dad and Mom knelt for prayer at night. He didn't succeed in killing him, but it was really bad. I don't know what that sentence was. These parents were good people and the father was a doctor.

Now, tell me about time outs...
 
Colonialgirl said:
GP100 said:
Sorry ChiefMuzz, I have to disagree with you on this one..

The best Child Psychology you can buy.. And it always worked.. All you needed to do, was "adapt it to that ass"..

Paddle.png


Maybe if it was applied today, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in with what I call, "The Milk bottle Generation." You can thank the liberals like "Dr. Spock" who thought it was evil to spank a child.. It ruined a whole generation. And is continuing to do so..

Explanation on my "Milk Bottle Generation" comment..

Bottle.jpg

Dr Spock NOW admits he was 100% totally wrong about disciplining kids.
I don't think his turned out all that well.

You are right on that.. I seem to remember reading something about him saying he regretted writing that book.. It's a shame that his ideas at the time gave rise to what we have today though.. Or at least, he was a huge part of it..
 
My parents were old school in discipline. My mother used an oil company yardstick on me and my brother's rumps as needed. Every so often she had to ask the oil truck driver for a new one. Seems they break in her use. Later on she got a bamboo yardstick. That thing was bad news, it never broke. If we committed a higher grade of offense my mother would use those dreaded words,"just wait 'til your father comes home". He had a fine GI belt he'd use. Neither one of the us were ever physically damaged but it got our attention for sure.
 
From what I hear Gramps' philosophy was (and I quote) " A kid's heart is a long way from his a**." It worked well for my Dad and my aunt, the jury is still out on my late uncle.

Dad on the other hand had this fiendish system called "punishment detail" that consisted of x number of hours on the worst chores the farm offered. After 16 hours of using an axe to cut hedgeapple trees out of a fencerow you have had very much time to repent your bad behavior, have higher than average upper body strength, get very good with sharpening files and have a lifetime hatred of axes.
 
Selena, your dad and mine must have come from the same school of child behavior modification.

Amazing how well diabolical punishment works. But I suppose if you did that today you'd be arrested for violating child labor laws.
 
Jeepnik said:
Selena, your dad and mine must have come from the same school of child behavior modification.

Amazing how well diabolical punishment works. But I suppose if you did that today you'd be arrested for violating child labor laws.

And it would be considered abuse as well..
 
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