A Ruger No.1 that would sell a lot....

[Alan in GA]

Let's try this: Suppose you are THE decision maker at Ruger. Your job is to bring out ONE No.1 rifle for a production run. Your job is to choose ONE THAT WILL BE PROFITABLE for the company,.. ...NOT just 'your favorite',.. but a rifle and cartridge you believe will SELL high numbers.
Got one in mind? (358 Win might float my boat, but not necessarily make the company a good profit!).

Me? I'd love a 358 Win or stainless 30/30, HOWEVER,.. I think the 35 Remington is a more recognized and 'sellable' round, at least here in Georgia. I'd buy one!

 

[rugerjunkie]

Before even seeing your last paragraph the 35 Rem popped into my head right off the bat. I'd prefer a stainless laminate in something like a light 1A and a 22" barrel but I'd still buy one in blued if they'd make em! The biggest reason I would prefer the stainless is a rifle like that would get plenty of time in the field and they are so easy to keep nice even a caveman can do it!

 

[Rumrunner]

The stainless RSI in 308 sold out real quick. I think another run in both blue and in stainless would sell out in a hurry for them.

Also a 45/70 KRSI should sell good.

 

[Heliman]

Shooters of No. 1 rifles are a small percentage of the Ruger customer base. As far as I know, the No. 1 hasn't been profitable for years. That being said, I believe it would need to be in a modern popular center fire cartridge probably on the 1A platform. Maybe a .308 Win chambering.

Personally, I would buy a 1A in .348 Win as long as fit and finish is excellent and the wood is nicely figured.

Dave

 

[Coogs]

.357 Max........................

 

[021]

Shooters of No. 1 rifles are a small percentage of the Ruger customer base. As far as I know, the No. 1 hasn't been profitable for years. That being said, I believe it would need to be in a modern popular center fire cartridge probably on the 1A platform. Maybe a .308 Win chambering.

Personally, I would buy a 1A in .348 Win as long as fit and finish is excellent and the wood is nicely figured.

Dave

I concur with everything said here. I also think a stainless RSI would sell, as far as I know, the only one ever done was the latest .308.

 

[Ohio Mega Bass T/T]

I ditto Hawkeyes remarks on the .308

 

[led]

+1, 357 Max

Later,
Stephen

 

[Rocdoc]

I like the 30-30 idea in SS, K1S 20 inch walnut or laminate, I would buy one. Not sure we will see a K1RSI edition again for a bit unless Lipseys turns it into a series, but hopeful.

 

[pete44ru]

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I'm fairly positive that members of the newer generation of shooters would be attracted by the 6.5mm Creedmore.


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[collectormzornes]

257 Roberts or 280 or finally make a 22lr couldn't make them fast enough I think if the price was good.

 

[trapperon]

I'm in Dave's camp---a 348 in 1A would be an all time favorite for me. And gosh--you would think a run of 250 would go quickly as thats only 5 for each state. I know Michigan's share would be sold out in 1 day!!

Ron

 

[firecaptain]

I'm in Dave's camp---a 348 in 1A would be an all time favorite for me. And gosh--you would think a run of 250 would go quickly as thats only 5 for each state. I know Michigan's share would be sold out in 1 day!!

Ron

Sign me up! A 348 on a 1S configuration.

 

[chilidog]

22 Jet

 

[WAYNO]

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[Sugar River]

It will never happen, but.......
I'd love to see a No 1 with the action scaled down to rimfire size.

 

[Alan in GA]

It will never happen, but.......
I'd love to see a No 1 with the action scaled down to rimfire size.

I think those would sell a lot in all the rim fire rounds.

 

[WAYNO]

It will never happen, but.......
I'd love to see a No 1 with the action scaled down to rimfire size.

I think those would sell a lot in all the rim fire rounds.

For collectors and/or purists, yes. Kind've like a Stevens Favorite, but nicer. 8)





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[Kanook]

I'm in for a 357 max.

I'd hope they would make it in an American also (that way I can afford it before it was dropped)

 

[6mm Remington]

Ruger 1B in .280 Ackley Improved!! Give it extra fancy walnut with a nutmeg laminate as an option!

 

[Clark]

I think if they make a #1 in any of the cartridges in the first list (with a few exceptions, such lists are subject to variances from year to year), it would sell fine. If it's not on that list, the chances of actually selling a decent amount shrink dramatically:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/best_selling_rifle_cartridges.htm

Clark

 

[41-44-45-48]

I think a stainless 30-30 would sell. Millions still hunt deer every year with that old cartridge. However, stainless 30-30s are few and far between even though they make sense for hunting. About the only stainless 30-30s I can think of on the market now are the $800 remlins and maybe a taurus/rossi. Sure seems like something Ruger could sell, especially if they could get the street price down to $800. I would think a laminate stock would help with cost versus paying for [not so] fancy walnut blanks.

 

[Heliman]

Maybe Ruger could build a Hybrid combo #1/#3 rifle. Maybe a #3 RSI variant with a #1 style butt pad but with a straight butt stock and the lever style of the #3. A basic mat blue finish..... with chamberings in 30-30, .308, 7x57, .348 Win, 38-55, and .460 S&W. I would buy one, particularly .348 Win for me! :D

Dave

 

[gewehrfreund]

I'll probably regret getting into this discussion that raises its ugly head every year about this time. :roll:

The perennial "wish list" of impractical No. One chamberings that will never happen unless the two or three guys who want it actually have one made up by a gunsmith. I always wanted a 32-40 1S, but knowing it was unlikely to ever happen, I did it myself.
For all the people who want an AI chambering, get the SAAMI rifle that has already been a factory offering (i.e. 1B 280 and RSI 257) and rechamber it!

I recall folks clamoring for an RSI in 257 or anything in 6.5x55. They were made and some were sold, but there are still examples of that limited production for sale and they aren't selling. That should tell us something; it certainly tells Ruger something.

A rimfire will never happen - there are talented gunsmiths who can do the conversion.

No. One fans (at least those who hunt with one) are a small and dwindling slice of the gun buying population. The "millions" of guys who hunt with a 30-30 are not likely to buy a No. One. They tend to not be rifle loonies, but rather "cheap" and practical which is why they use a 30-30 in the first place.

Dreaming of exotic new No. One offerings is nice, but it's largely a waste of time. I'd rather discuss things that are actually pertinent to the use, collecting, etc. of these great rifles.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

.I'm fairly positive that members of the newer generation of shooters would be attracted by the 6.5mm Creedmore.

I would pick a 30-30 but if the question is what would sell I think a 300 Blackout might be nice.

 

[22/45 Fan]

I believe the real answer to this question is that the #1 will NEVER sell in large quantities no matter what it's chambered in. It is too much a niche firearm to have wide appeal and it's sales have always been and will always be low.

 

[Rocdoc]

Yea, but a few of us are still chasing the K1 editions, I am still in for a K1S 20 inch or K1RSI either in 30-30. Lipseys could do a 125 run.

 

[Alan in GA]

I'll probably regret getting into this discussion that raises its ugly head every year about this time. :roll:

The perennial "wish list" of impractical No. One chamberings that will never happen unless the two or three guys who want it actually have one made up by a gunsmith. I always wanted a 32-40 1S, but knowing it was unlikely to ever happen, I did it myself.
For all the people who want an AI chambering, get the SAAMI rifle that has already been a factory offering (i.e. 1B 280 and RSI 257) and rechamber it!

I recall folks clamoring for an RSI in 257 or anything in 6.5x55. They were made and some were sold, but there are still examples of that limited production for sale and they aren't selling. That should tell us something; it certainly tells Ruger something.

A rimfire will never happen - there are talented gunsmiths who can do the conversion.

No. One fans (at least those who hunt with one) are a small and dwindling slice of the gun buying population. The "millions" of guys who hunt with a 30-30 are not likely to buy a No. One. They tend to not be rifle loonies, but rather "cheap" and practical which is why they use a 30-30 in the first place.

Dreaming of exotic new No. One offerings is nice, but it's largely a waste of time. I'd rather discuss things that are actually pertinent to the use, collecting, etc. of these great rifles.

So, do you have an opinion of what might sell? The OP question was not for 'favorites', but asking for a suggestion as to what if any chambering you think would sell larger numbers of No.1's.

 

[41-44-45-48]

The other thing is price. They'd sell a lot more at $600 than the $1000+ they currently sell for. Note I'm not saying it's possible to build them at that price point, just that they'd sell better. Imagine what would happen to sales of the single actions if they cost twice as much.... For some reason it's a lot easier to justify $500-600 on each piece in a collection but $1000+ is a stretch. I doubt I'm the only one in this boat.

 

[Clark]

So, do you have an opinion of what might sell? The OP question was not for 'favorites', but asking for a suggestion as to what if any chambering you think would sell larger numbers of No.1's.

I was thinking the same thing our German friend wrote but took the easy way out and linked to the best-selling cartridges of 2015. It's those cartridges that would sell the best. As much as I don't care for the 7.62x39, it's popular and sells and that would hold true for the #1. These older and boutique cartridges are interesting but only to a very small crowd.

I don't think the #1 is a niche product, basically all single-shots are unpopular right now. In due time they will gain traction and those companies with the ability to make a quality product will gain market share.

Clark