A phrase we never hear..

blackhawknj

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...how many times have we heard that someone "worked their way through college" and we applaud them for their energy, perseverance and determination.
When was the last time you heard of someone "working their way" off welfare or disability ?
 
blackhawknj said:
...how many times have we heard that someone "worked their way through college" and we applaud them for their energy, perseverance and determination.
When was the last time you heard of someone "working their way" off welfare or disability ?

Hi,

It's been a long time, but I've had one client who worked her way off welfare, and one who worked his way off disability. The one who got off welfare said they did everything they could to keep her on the rolls and in the system! Welfare worker thought the lady was nuts to want to "lose" all her benefits,

Short version: "my" lady previously had money but ended up on welfare when hubby took his secretary, plus all the money in his business and boogied, leaving her b/k with a kid and no real job skills. She kept telling the case worker "I've lost a whole lot more than your benefits and I want it back." My client had gotten an entry level office job in some kind of a manufacturing company, had risen into management in under a year, and was making more than the case worker in that same time...

So, it can happen!

(Social justice disclaimer: yeah, the lady was white and consequently automatically privileged. [/sarc] No black, brown, red, yellow or green with purple polka dots folks were denied any of their benefits in the production of this story.)

Rick C
 
I know of similar story to Rick's only almost opposite. A co-worked of my wife's was having hard time (single Mom, kids, boyfriend/hubby left...) She needed about $100 a month more than she was making. She went and asked for assistance. They told her they couldn't help her, BUT if she QUIT they could give her blah, blah, blah and then some. They wouldn't help her a little bit but they dang sure would fund anything and everything if she quit. Surprisingly she told them to bag it.
 
I can't work my way off of disability due to the surgeries that had and things that they did to me in the hospital. I'm lucky to be alive.
I'd love to have a job doing something but I have medical issues so I can't. I tried pulling a Bore Snake through my 30-06 last month and did just fine. But when I tried to pull the same Bore Snake through my 30/30 I thought I ripped out the implant that is still in my chest and hooked to my heart. It still hurts, and that was almost a month ago. I am only fooling myself if I think I'll ever be able to work again. I am not supposed to pick up anything heavier than a gallon of milk, but I still like to take my rifles to the range when I can. My wife says that when I get back I'm exhausted for the next three days.
Time in the loading shed is severely limited, too. I can stay ( most of the time ) maybe two or 2.5 hours tops without having to head for the house.
Cancer really sucks.
 
My wife spent 31 years working for the County, the Welfare Department, County Hospital and County Mental Health. She worked with people who were on welfare the whole time.

Said she never saw anybody get off welfare and neither did any of the people she worked with for the entire time she was there.
 
Another phrase I don't hear very often is 'the key to overcoming poverty is education and job training'.

Giving people a check or a card does not motivate them to improve themselves but then some people are beyond that and require a safety net just to live. We should be happy that in this country we can help those people.
 
Big difference between someone on disability due to debilitating illness or injury and someone who's just work-shy.
ADC-Aid to Dependent Children-originally "Widows and Orphans", now-unwed mothers. I tell people to watch the video "Swipe Yo' EBT!" and then we'll discuss "poverty."
 
Jimbo357mag said:
Another phrase I don't hear very often is 'the key to overcoming poverty is education and job training'.

Giving people a check or a card does not motivate them to improve themselves but then some people are beyond that and require a safety net just to live. We should be happy that in this country we can help those people.

Everyone is the US has the ability to attend 13 years of school for free.

I have no issues with a safety net for those in need. What in have issues with is a lack of responsibility and abuse of that safety net.
 
I worked for a Housing Authority dealing with rental assistance, Family Self Sufficiency and Home Ownership programs. Fraud is rampant, yet hardly any money goes for enforcement.

It is indeed rare when someone works their way off the programs; even when they're supposed to have goals fo self sufficiency, many just coast along doing the minimum in order to get as much as they can while still retaining benefits.

We had 3 generations of several families on housing assistance. Here's one example that bugged me a lot: when a person quits a job without good cause, they can't get unemployment benefits without at least jumping through some hoops and making 4 times what their weekly unemployment check would have been.

Not so for housing. You don't like your job, or just don't want to work anymore and up and quit... you get rewarded for it as the housing authority will then pay all of you rent and utilities (up to the maximum assistance amount for the family size).

I was covering the front desk one day when this lady came in to fill out a form. With her was her daughter and brand new grand daughter. Daughter was only a year or so out of high school. While there, mom instructed her daughter to fill out an application to get on housing assistance, saying, "time to get your own assistance now that you're having babies."

This is what the parents are teaching their kids. NOT to learn something and go out there and get a job, NOT to take a little responsibility for your own life. Oh no, just get signed up for housing and utility assistance, sign up for food stamps (SNAP), sign up for free medical care and every free food box, free cell phone, free clothes, etc, etc, etc, that you possibly can.... and to pump out more babies so the amount of your assistance goes up. Then sign up the kids for free clothes and school supplies and everything else you can get.

They also learn what jobs they can do to get cash under the table so they don't have to report their income, like delivering phone books, baby sitting, stealing metal and recycling it, dealing drugs, etc, etc. If you can think of it, they already have...

Oh, and not reporting their Baby Daddy lives with them and has a full time job. I saw that several times but couldn't prove it. One lady had something like 7 kids, all from the same father and showed the birth certificate to prove the children were hers. Dad is listed on the birth certificate. No follow up. No investigation for decades of fraud. Nothing.
 
My ex-wife worked for a large home builder. A couple came into the office and it was determined that they didn't have sufficient income to qualify for a house. The wife said, "Well, I guess I need to have another baby." And they left. About a year later, they returned, with another baby. They now qualified and got their house. :(

My partner and I stopped a car for failing to dim the headlights. The young man driving stated that he didn't know HOW to dim them. We showed him the little button in the floorboard. (Yes, it was along time ago. :)) We spoke with him a while longer and then he made a curious statement about EVERYBODY getting their check from the government. We were a mite puzzled and asked what he meant by that. He went to say that everybody in the US got a check from the government. We informed him that we, as police officers, had to work for our money and it came from the city, not from the Federal government. He was convinced that everybody in the US of A got a check from the government; after all, his mom, his grandmama, his aunts and uncles and all of his brothers and sisters, they all got government checks.

We drove away, shaking our heads.
 
It was the Post Office that put am end to the Rodney Kings riots in LA in 1992. I recall a news story quoting a local resident saying "Everybody heah' livin' off checks!"
The Post Office ended door to door deliveries, people had to go the PO, past heavily armed Postal Inspectors and others, show ID-and sign for them.
 

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