too bad, and I just tossed 5 -77/22 boxes ( one of them was a 77/17 ) too bulky to take to the gun show, been cleaning out the basement rafters and the attic ,since the big 'sale', told a few folks but they showed little and NO interest, now I'm working on books and sales literature, still got hundreds of owners manuals,,, too much ,so much and so little time with taking care of Momma everyday, and little , or no help.......tough getting old......