eagleeye43
Bearcat
Hoping that Ruger will soon be on board with a new 77/17 Hornet that Hornaday is introducing and Savage has already chambering a rifle for...
17 hornet
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mattsbox99
Hunter
They introduced one at the SHOT show, shouldn't be too long before they are at local shops.
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eagleeye43
Bearcat
Did not see that, but was hoping they would.......Hornaday indicated that there stuff would be ready around the first of March.........just in time for varmint season
mike7mm08
Buckeye
I really thinking about one of these as a new toy. I will probable go with a savage though. Like the trigger better and I am thinking they will be considerable less expensive than the ruger. I am going to wait and see what overall opinion is of the different platforms as well as the cartridge before I make a decision. My biggest concern is reloading. Anyone know the possible case life? I know the 22 hornet is rumored to only be good for two maybe three loads. If brass won't last at least four loadings or more I won't be too interested. As I said this will be a toy with no real specific use. As such it has to be cheap to feed.
hammie
Single-Sixer
@mike7mm08: I have a 77 in stainless target grey, and a browning low wall, chambered for .22 hornet. I don't expect the same brass life from the hornet, but I'm still using brass that has been reloaded several times. I also reload for .32-20 and .44-40 and the brass is thin, as martyj said. The trick with those old cartridges is don't hot road them and don't re-size more than necessary. The secret to reloading the hornet is small pistol primers and accurate arms 1680 powder.
From your user name, you seem to be a 7mm-08 fan. I envy you. I would think that the cartridge is accurate, low recoiling, easy to reload, and works with a short action. I've been sort of looking for one , but surprisingly there don't seem to be too many 7mm-08's floating around, particularly on a heavy barrel, target platform. I'll have to keep looking.
From your user name, you seem to be a 7mm-08 fan. I envy you. I would think that the cartridge is accurate, low recoiling, easy to reload, and works with a short action. I've been sort of looking for one , but surprisingly there don't seem to be too many 7mm-08's floating around, particularly on a heavy barrel, target platform. I'll have to keep looking.
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eagleeye43
Bearcat
I have shot a K-Hornet for a number of years and have had good longevity using Winchester brass and 1680 powder. I have also shot a 17Ackley hornet to a lesser degree. Several years ago I had Bullberry rebarrel one of my 77/22 to 17 and then worked up the brass.
mattsbox99
Hunter
Don't tell my Hornet brass its only supposed to last 4 reloads... I have some that has been loaded a dozen times.
Lil Gun powder is my choice with Rem brass and a Hornady 35 gr V Max or Nosler 35 BT and Rem 6 1/2 primers.
Lil Gun powder is my choice with Rem brass and a Hornady 35 gr V Max or Nosler 35 BT and Rem 6 1/2 primers.
hammie
Single-Sixer
@mattsbox99: Those are good choices. Can't argue with them.
The only problem I have, if it even is one, is that with 40 or 45 grain spire points, I have to seat the bullet deeply so that it will function through the ruger's magazine. Kinda looks like a missile inside a silo.
The only problem I have, if it even is one, is that with 40 or 45 grain spire points, I have to seat the bullet deeply so that it will function through the ruger's magazine. Kinda looks like a missile inside a silo.
mattsbox99
Hunter
My 257 Roberts does the same thing, fully 3/4 of the bullet is down in the case with the heavier bullets.
hammie
Single-Sixer
@mattsbox99: You must have a Remington 700 with a short action? If I recall correctly, my hawkeye .257 Rbts has a long action, and the cartridges rattle around a little in the magazine. Perhaps .257 bob's should be built on a '98 action for the best fit.
I was thinking, if you necked the .257 roberts up to 7mm, it would make a great wildcat! (LOL)
I was thinking, if you necked the .257 roberts up to 7mm, it would make a great wildcat! (LOL)
mattsbox99
Hunter
I have a No. 1, so I'm not limited, but I bought some ammunition and its loaded for the short action.
I bet 7mm x 257 Roberts would be a heck of a cartridge!
I bet 7mm x 257 Roberts would be a heck of a cartridge!
hammie
Single-Sixer
@mattsbox99: Cool! I also have a 1-B chambered for .257 roberts. My wife bought it for me in '79 or '80. It never shot well. However, I have kept the rifle and the wife.
mattsbox99
Hunter
I'm not sure which is more rare! 
mike7mm08
Buckeye
Hammie: The 7mm08 is a cartridge that has impressed me greatly. Especially in the rifle I have. I am running a remington model 7. Early production with the 18 inch barrel. It is in a cheap remington synthetic stock no bedding and it is a very generous fit. I never do anything special when I take it in and out of the stock. Drop it in where it seems to want to sit that day tighten the screws til snug. I did install a Rifle basix trigger other than that it is factory.
I am shooting nosler ballistic tips 140 grain. Over a hot load of H414 for 2800fps. This load will shoot 1/4 to 1/2" any day of the week and I have a time or two shot sub 1/4". Not bad for a light weight sporter barrel that honestly has been not taken care of the greatest, it is my deer rifle . It is hell on deer. Hits like lightening. I have taken deer out to 350 yards and the bullet performs just fine.
With a quality barrel and a bedded action and more weight than the 6 1/2 pounds this rifle weighs I can see this cartridge being even more amazing. This rifle has really spoiled me. It was my first rifle and it turned me into an accuracy freak. I have other rifles that have taken all the tricks in the book to get to shoot even close to this one.
My need for accurate rifles is one of the draws of the 17 hornet. Now that I am hearing some positive reports on brass life I am thinking a little more about getting one.
I am shooting nosler ballistic tips 140 grain. Over a hot load of H414 for 2800fps. This load will shoot 1/4 to 1/2" any day of the week and I have a time or two shot sub 1/4". Not bad for a light weight sporter barrel that honestly has been not taken care of the greatest, it is my deer rifle . It is hell on deer. Hits like lightening. I have taken deer out to 350 yards and the bullet performs just fine.
With a quality barrel and a bedded action and more weight than the 6 1/2 pounds this rifle weighs I can see this cartridge being even more amazing. This rifle has really spoiled me. It was my first rifle and it turned me into an accuracy freak. I have other rifles that have taken all the tricks in the book to get to shoot even close to this one.
My need for accurate rifles is one of the draws of the 17 hornet. Now that I am hearing some positive reports on brass life I am thinking a little more about getting one.
hammie
Single-Sixer
@mike7mm08: Well, it sounds like you have the perfect deer rifle. I always thought the model 7 would make a great "scout" rifle, long before the concept became popular.
Since this is the ruger forum, I wonder if ruger makes their compact chambered for 7mm-08. I'll have to check.
Since this is the ruger forum, I wonder if ruger makes their compact chambered for 7mm-08. I'll have to check.
mike7mm08
Buckeye
The model 7 would make a great scout rifle. In fact the model 7 replaced the 600 and 660 series. Which were the first actions used for a scout. I have several 600 and 660s. I have a redfield scout mount for them. They were made in the early 70s. The mount used the front scope base screws and then clamped onto the rib, The mount also has a sight built into it just like the mounts now offered by XS. It goes to show that it takes a couple decades to warm up to a good idea sometimes. If you in the market for a 7mm08 I would take a good look at the new savage lightweight hunter. It is a sweet little rifle. If my model 7 did not shoot as good as it does I would be buying one myself. Ruger does offer the compact as well.
