Some AI, some big name "advertising", but still worth a look.
The revolver market crash
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Some AI, some big name "advertising", but still worth a look.
JonathanK
Bearcat
None of the revolvers I want seem to be crashing 
Well...If it's on YouTube, it's gotta be true! 
Tom Selleck already sold his so we should be safe...
deac45
Blackhawk
And AI generated at that. That's like double dog dare ya legit or something!Well...If it's on YouTube, it's gotta be true!
Paul B
Hunter
I had one of the first 4" 686 S&W revolvers to hit Tucson. Biggest mistake I ever made was selling it. Many years ago I had a 4" M28 and I stupidly sold it as well. W hen will I ever learn?
PJ
PJ
protoolman
Service-Sixer
Whole video was pure speculation. Gun shows are reality. Get out and look at your local market.
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Every revolver S&W and Ruger makes gets sold. There are never quite enough or just enough depending on your perspective
Racks full of Grandpa Guns at my friends shop. Most have been there over a decade!!! Absolutely beautiful pieces totally eclipsed by modern performance!!! Back in the 60's and 70's how many guns were sub MOA off the rack???
I honestly have absolutely no practical purpose for a Revolver anymore. I have semi autos that exceed them in every possible way except for my Dan Wesson 44 which is rather ponderous to carry.
FWIW, I think one big reason a lot of younger folks buy autos, is that your average, plastic-frame 21st century auto pistol is a lot cheaper to own than a decent revolver. Center fire revolvers tend to cost more to manufacture, and most are chambered for ammo that costs a lot more than the 'universal cartridge' (9mm Luger). Plus, revolvers take longer to clean, which is a put off in today's "I don't have time" & "I want it now" world.
Another thing that could definitely affect the market place is gun control. A lot of older guys remember the Democrat's 1994 gun & magazine ban, and have been voting pro-2nd Amendment ever since. As the owners of 'grandpa guns' die off, they'll be replaced by politically clueless younger people (Biden, Kamala & Mamdani voters), and we're likely to get more State restrictions on magazine capacity (as in NY, CA, CO, etc.). That will increase demand for larger calibers, just like it did 30 years ago: do you want 8 rds of 9mm, or 8 rounds .357, .40 or .45?
Finally, not everyone wants a "sub MOA" rifle, because they do all of their shooting at 100 yds or less ("plinking"). And even if they buy a rifle that can theoretically do it, a lot of folks put cheap glass on it and feed it bargain basement ammo (cost factor, see my first paragraph). Lever guns and PCCs are great for plinking!
Bottom line, I wouldn't bet on the video up at the top being right...
As always IMHO, FWIW, YMMV, etc., etc...
Another thing that could definitely affect the market place is gun control. A lot of older guys remember the Democrat's 1994 gun & magazine ban, and have been voting pro-2nd Amendment ever since. As the owners of 'grandpa guns' die off, they'll be replaced by politically clueless younger people (Biden, Kamala & Mamdani voters), and we're likely to get more State restrictions on magazine capacity (as in NY, CA, CO, etc.). That will increase demand for larger calibers, just like it did 30 years ago: do you want 8 rds of 9mm, or 8 rounds .357, .40 or .45?
Finally, not everyone wants a "sub MOA" rifle, because they do all of their shooting at 100 yds or less ("plinking"). And even if they buy a rifle that can theoretically do it, a lot of folks put cheap glass on it and feed it bargain basement ammo (cost factor, see my first paragraph). Lever guns and PCCs are great for plinking!
Bottom line, I wouldn't bet on the video up at the top being right...
As always IMHO, FWIW, YMMV, etc., etc...
I'm getting to appreciate revolvers more and more, because I really enjoy reloading. Load 'em hot or load 'em mild, no worries about cycling. No worries about bullet profile - stick that hollow base wadcutter in the case backwards if you want. Plenty of case capacity for multiple projectile loads, if you want to play around with those. Great fun with cast bullets, that I've been finding really cheap! I don't personally feel a need to have everything cutting-edge-state-of-the-art, obviously YMMV, one size never fits all, etc., etc...
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A lot of gun sales are in a lull. AR sales are flat, other guns besides revolvers, etc. A lot of it is economy driven & the rest is politically driven. I runs in cycles & has for decades, all the way back to the gun control act of 1968.
Yes, revolvers might be the ones selling the slowest, but many other formats are sharing the slow down.
A great example: a very big name in retail gun sales made a decent living selling guns for a few decades, up some years, down in others. He's an acquaintance of mine & we were talking one day about his semi retirement. He told me in a few more choice words that if he had known that Obama was going to make him a millionaire he might have voted for him.
Yes, revolvers might be the ones selling the slowest, but many other formats are sharing the slow down.
A great example: a very big name in retail gun sales made a decent living selling guns for a few decades, up some years, down in others. He's an acquaintance of mine & we were talking one day about his semi retirement. He told me in a few more choice words that if he had known that Obama was going to make him a millionaire he might have voted for him.
No worries about the Game Warden finding your brass.I'm getting to appreciate revolvers more and more, because I really enjoy reloading. Load 'em hot or load 'em mild, no worries about cycling. No worries about bullet profile - stick that hollow base wadcutter in the case backwards if you want. Plenty of case capacity for multiple projectile loads, if you want to play around with those. Great fun with cast bullets, that I've been finding really cheap! I don't personally feel a need to have everything cutting-edge-state-of-the-art, obviously YMMV, one size never fits all, etc., etc...
Are they listed online anywhere? Asking for a friend ;-)
Yeah, me too T !
I guess it depends on personal preference, as does homes, cars, wives, etc. I’m a hunter, not a shooter. I don’t go to a range, I have a bench just a hundred yards out my back door. Try your 9mm plastic fantastic at a hundred yards sometimes. Don’t get me wrong, there’s one on my right hip as I sit at my kitchen bar typing this. I did shoot a hog with it a few months ago, at about 60 yds. or so, but he ran off into the neighbor’s woods. I know I hit him well because I saw a bloody spot on his opposite side when he ran. Before I go any farther I must state that the Rost Martin 9mm I shot him with has a Holosun reflex on it. But…if I had been using my .41 mag, he wouldn’t have ran nearly as far.
Difference tools for different applications.
I guess it depends on personal preference, as does homes, cars, wives, etc. I’m a hunter, not a shooter. I don’t go to a range, I have a bench just a hundred yards out my back door. Try your 9mm plastic fantastic at a hundred yards sometimes. Don’t get me wrong, there’s one on my right hip as I sit at my kitchen bar typing this. I did shoot a hog with it a few months ago, at about 60 yds. or so, but he ran off into the neighbor’s woods. I know I hit him well because I saw a bloody spot on his opposite side when he ran. Before I go any farther I must state that the Rost Martin 9mm I shot him with has a Holosun reflex on it. But…if I had been using my .41 mag, he wouldn’t have ran nearly as far.
Difference tools for different applications.
Night Stalker
Bearcat
I agree, the part that bothers me, dems of 1994. HOLY CRAP!!! “30 years ago” seems like yesterday.FWIW, I think one big reason a lot of younger folks buy autos, is that your average, plastic-frame 21st century auto pistol is a lot cheaper to own than a decent revolver. Center fire revolvers tend to cost more to manufacture, and most are chambered for ammo that costs a lot more than the 'universal cartridge' (9mm Luger). Plus, revolvers take longer to clean, which is a put off in today's "I don't have time" & "I want it now" world.
Another thing that could definitely affect the market place is gun control. A lot of older guys remember the Democrat's 1994 gun & magazine ban, and have been voting pro-2nd Amendment ever since. As the owners of 'grandpa guns' die off, they'll be replaced by politically clueless younger people (Biden, Kamala & Mamdani voters), and we're likely to get more State restrictions on magazine capacity (as in NY, CA, CO, etc.). That will increase demand for larger calibers, just like it did 30 years ago: do you want 8 rds of 9mm, or 8 rounds .357, .40 or .45?
Finally, not everyone wants a "sub MOA" rifle, because they do all of their shooting at 100 yds or less ("plinking"). And even if they buy a rifle that can theoretically do it, a lot of folks put cheap glass on it and feed it bargain basement ammo (cost factor, see my first paragraph). Lever guns and PCCs are great for plinking!
Bottom line, I wouldn't bet on the video up at the top being right...
As always IMHO, FWIW, YMMV, etc., etc...
"On the shelf for 10 years" means the buis owner doesn't really want to sell them, is not practical with his pricing, or doesn't realize the money tied up in them could have been used to buy other guns to sell & make a profit on for those 10 years.
I reload for my semis. Lehigh for carry, usually Xtreme or Barry's for plinking. I can dial loads in for each gun. I get 2"-4" @ 25yds average with my pistols. I routinely experiment with different bullets to see if something is better.I'm getting to appreciate revolvers more and more, because I really enjoy reloading. Load 'em hot or load 'em mild, no worries about cycling. No worries about bullet profile - stick that hollow base wadcutter in the case backwards if you want. Plenty of case capacity for multiple projectile loads, if you want to play around with those. Great fun with cast bullets, that I've been finding really cheap! I don't personally feel a need to have everything cutting-edge-state-of-the-art, obviously YMMV, one size never fits all, etc., etc...
100yds!!! Mines 15' from my laundry room door. It makes working up loads way easier
I tried to watch... ho hum... but the idiot who moved from CA to S.C. and was complaining about the extra $77 he had to pay a month for car insurance kept popping up.... I was going to comment on his page but you have to subscribe first.... I'm sure it is all made up ... but he moved from LA to King Street in Charleston? I really don't think so and none of the fake pictures even comes close to what King St in Charleston looks like.
ChrisL
Single-Sixer
Some AI, some big name "advertising", but still worth a look.
I shoot a lot of each genre. The only semi-autos without FTF issues are the Glocks, the rest are too unreliable to depend on in an emergency, including several 1911s. The only kind of revolver that has occasional FTF are those that use moon clips. Classic revolvers, whether DA or SA, just work. They don't depend on any extra devices (magazines, moon clips) to work. Plus ... they're interesting, beautiful, and fun.
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I have a friend who likes automatics. All he talks about is the power of the 10mm cartridge.
It is the peak of practical power in a semi automatic handgun, but 10mm level is where revolvers start.
The revolver will always be King of the hill in terms of stopping power.
It is the peak of practical power in a semi automatic handgun, but 10mm level is where revolvers start.
The revolver will always be King of the hill in terms of stopping power.
Pawn shop owners have the same mindset. Pay twenty cents on the dollar incoming and sell for 10-15% below new prices. Down here a lot of stuff stays on the shelves a long time.
Hankus
Buckeye
Well, I found a “cheap” revolver today. I rescued a badly stained SP-101 3” in .357 Magnum from my favorite LGS. I walked in and it was sitting there priced at $299!! I figured out why after he handed it to me. It has been fired very little but the “stainless” steel isn’t- it’s badly stained, but no raised corrosion that can be felt. After checking for lockup, cylinder rotation, end shake etc. (all good) I offered $250 and walked out with it five minutes later. Writeup with lots of photos to follow. I DID miss out on a Single Six and a Single Seven last week while I was out of the country on a cruise. Luckily for me, the Single Seven was a duplicate of mine, “Blued”, 4-5/8” model 8165. It sold for $1250!!! I paid $800 for mine ANIB almost four years ago….
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ammo dave
Single-Sixer
I have a half dozen plastic guns and they all work well but I don’t really enjoy shooting them or chasing the brass. My last three gun purchases have all been S&W revolvers (.22,.32 and .38). They were all near mint and I got them at good prices. I just like the look of revolvers and they’re more fun to shoot. A slightIy tuned S&W trigger is a joy to behold. I do shoot my all metal autos a bit but I still have to chase the brass.
Well repent & make amends. One of Smiths latest thru Lipseys. A 686 Mountain Gun with a 7 shot cylinder, & no Hilary hole. Not cheap, but were they ever?
