Cheesewhiz said:
SteveSatch said:
'D' shaped mag release. Perfect. Thanks. Are the non 'D' shaped mag releases a circle shape or what?
Thanks,
Steve
Round and they rotate when pushed, kind of silly actually because they are knurled. It's hard to push something that's knurled and rotates as you push on it.
It can rotate but it won't rotate, that's not the beef. The main problem at the beginning is that the round mag releases were too stiff, and some people found them uncomfortably difficult to actuate. On my SR9 1.1 with more than 2000 rounds I still cannot release the magazine with anything other than my thumb, index or middle finger - and those last two with face-contorting effort. The thumb works fine, no face contortions, with both hands. Smaller fingers don't work. It's stiff! It starts out that way and it stays that way, unlike the slide racking to some extent. I haven't measured it but I bet you have to hit it with 20 pounds+ to get the magazine out, maybe more. [Update: see below, I measured it.] If you have weak thumbs, don't buy a round mag. release SR9.
I actually like it now: I just push quickly on it with my thumb. I learned it was stiff the first day and adapted to it.
One thing is for sure: The 1.0 and 1.1 had a magazine release that is not going to be easily tripped by contact with a holster. They will probably wear through a holster before the holster contact ever causes a magazine to come loose accidentally. I have a pet theory that Ruger made the magazine release stiff in its initial form because 1) the round ambi. mag release is pretty wide, not the widest point of the gun but wide enough and 2) the pistol also has a magazine disconnect safety. Obviously they didn't want a holstered gun to accidentally release the magazine, rendering the gun inoperable when drawn. Since they were trying to sell to LEOs and all, which apparently didn't work (LEOs like their Glocks and SIGs and other pistols too much, Ruger just can't break in there), and cover a few too many bases, methinks. Can't please 'em all. In the fullness of time Ruger realized they weren't going to capture the LEO market with this pistol and they went to a D-shaped magazine release that requires less force to actuate. Hopefully it is also resistant to being accidentally tripped by a holster, because if it happens, you will be drawing a gun that will not fire even if you turn off the safety.
So you draw the gun and shut the safety off as part of your normal draw routine practice and discover the trigger doesn't fire the gun, and then you have a Bad Moment Indeed. And you might have to pick your magazine up off the floor instead of firing the crucially important first shot. This is why I understand people who don't like magazine disconnect safeties.
At least, that's my story and I'm sticking to it
And just to pour more fuel on the fire, no doubt.
Not to scare anyone away from the SR9, even the 1.1. I still love mine, I got used to the stiff magazine release on Day One and have never looked back, no regrets.
[Update: I decided not to be lazy and actually measure the force required with a postage scale. My SR9 1.1 (Serial 330-6xxxx) with the round magazine release requires approx. 12 pounds of force on the button, either side, to release the magazine. So the 20+ number above is wrong, it's probably what I 'guesstimated' when I first got it and wondered why it was stiff.]