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Some one wasn't listening OR the tower had their heads up their ----.
http://news.yahoo.com/scary-video-shows-two-planes-coming-frighteningly-close-191117170.html
I bet the people on the starboard side of the taxiing plane got a REAL good view.
 
Having been on the receiving end of TWO near mid-airs I can tell you that 'verbiage' isn't what is happening at that time. A jet fighter nearly plowed into our helicopter flight outside Andrews. He was supposed to be a thousand feet higher than we were and suddenly there he was, at our altitude. The pilot bottomed out the collective to get us clear. Had he turned either port or starboard the fighter would have hit our rotor disc.He cleared my aircraft so close you could actually see the individual panels on his wing. The other was at Westchester Airport in New York. A Cessna 170 nearly hit us head-on as we were landing. He, for whatever reason, decided to land with the wind and wasn't in contact with the tower (this we found out AFTER we finally landed). Captain Calhoun ( the man that gave me my "Fox Mike" nickname) wanted to tear the other pilots head off and shove it somewhere, until he figured it was already there.
 
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Well someone certainly screwed the pooch, but it could have been one of three folks. The aircraft crossed the active evidently headed for another runway. He didn't turn into takeoff position. It could have been...

1. The Local Controller who was controlling the active runways.

2. The Ground Controller who would be controlling ground movement.

3. The pilot who received a clearance to taxi to a certain position on the airport
and hold, and thought that spot was on the other side of the active.

I suspect number three as I heard early in the video reference to landing on the
left runway. That would mean the aircraft on the ground was transiting to the
right runway for take off. Airport layouts can be very confusing with all their hold
points, and often pilots who may see several airports in a single day get confused
or lost on the ground.

It could also have been the Ground Controller who thought he had more time to
get the aircraft across the active runway, or simply gave a wrong waypoint to
hold at.

The Controller who was controlling the runway may also have given permission
to the Ground Controller thinking the AC would move faster.

The landing pilot should have had the right of way, so I doubt he is at fault.

I used to investigate some of these and they can get complicated real quick.
 
The other thing is they muted the voices just prior to the landing aircraft executing
a go around. If the Controllers saw the error and ordered the landing AC to
go around then no one is really at fault as the system worked as it should have,
although not as efficiently as it should.

Which kinda makes me think they did that to make it look like something it wasn't.
BTW, long distance cameras make an incident look a lot closer than reality.
 
Fox Mike said:
Some one wasn't listening OR the tower had their heads up their ----.
http://news.yahoo.com/scary-video-shows-two-planes-coming-frighteningly-close-191117170.html
I bet the people on the starboard side of the taxiing plane got a REAL good view.


that's a real PSM !!!
 
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