That is just what I suspected last year and tested them. Yep the FPS is too low. Several pages of suppressed 10-22 and ammo discussed July 2024. A bolt action would be best. The CCI clean sub sonic and Remington sub sonic both are darn quiet and 10-22s function.
Suppressed 10-22
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Just for clarity… I did list links to two different “Quiet” loads.
The original “Quiet” is not intended to cycle semi-autos, is widely known not to cycle semi-autos, and has been labeled such by the manufacturer, I believe for several years.
The newer “Quiet-22 Semi-Auto,” is specifically designed (and advertised) to cycle semi-autos. I’d be surprised if CCI would risk their reputation on inaccurate advertising copy re: functioning semi-autos…
https://www.cci-ammunition.com/rimfire/cci/quiet-22-semi-auto/6-975CC.html
Have you two tried the specific “Quiet-22 Semi-Auto” load?
The Happy Kaboomer
Single-Sixer
Have never saw it on the shelf............Only 720 FPS load which will not cycle.
FWIW--I've been trying some Winchester 'SubSonic 42 MAX' in 10.5" Charger barrel both open and suppressed. It's 100% functional, accurate, and quiet--only the cycling of the bolt is heard when using the muffler.
Captain Slapnuts
Bearcat
I have a MkIV that I attach a Dead Air MASK to. I'm pretty satisfied that it's "Hollywood quiet". Slightly louder or quieter, depending on the ammo. I'm also pretty impressed that this thing will cycle stuff like Quiet 22. Yes, there is some noise from the action, and some from the bullet strike.
Just hold the bolt of the MK or 22/45 closed with the thumb of the support hand. Works fine--just don't forget and do that with a centerfire.
While a bolt action or forced single shot 10/22 are probably the quietest and simplest options, for those who really want a quiet muzzle report but can live with some semi auto action noise, there's always the improved Volquartsen Firefly 2.0 bolt for the 10/22:Here's one that claims to produce 75% less less sound than a standard velocity load. Seems like a very good start on suppresion, right out of the gate!Be aware that it likely won't operate your 10/22's action (they tell you that, right on the label). This one is the speed of CCI's CB Caps, but with a 40-grain bullet, vs. the CB's 29 grain bullet.
https://www.cci-ammunition.com/rimfire/cci/quiet-22/6-960.html———
I hear great things about the segmented rounds, as well- bullet is designed to split into three inside your quarry. Rabbits aren't necessarily very hard to kill in the first place, but these types of loads are moving pretty slowly. Three wound channels might be better than one! Here's a "segmented" version of the above "Quiet" loading. This is probably the first one I'd try, balancing minimal noise with the segmented bullet. (Don't know why the link isn't posting a pretty picture…)
https://www.cci-ammunition.com/rimfire/cci/quiet-22-segmented-hp/6-970.html[ snip]
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Now if they'd just load the segmented bullet into a "Quiet" load that would cycle the semi-auto… then we might be in business!
https://volquartsen.com/departments/1022_parts/inventory_configurations/7185
Every now and then they'll offer blems for 25–30% off. The 58% weight reduction, coupled with two different springs, permits semi auto function with ammo from 710 FPS up to 1050 FPS.
For those who don't want to tinker with their 10-22, I suggest at least trying the newer 'suppressor' ammo with 42-45 grain bullets. Sub-sonic MV with a heavier bullet retains more energy than typical 40 grain at the lower velocity.
FWIW I have zero confidence in the capability of the 'QUIET' ammo @ 710-750 fps.
FWIW I have zero confidence in the capability of the 'QUIET' ammo @ 710-750 fps.
I agree on the heavier bullets, provided they test out adequately accurate at the ranges at which you want to shoot. I need to do more testing, but I’ve had accuracy problems with these weights out at 25 to 50 yards in 1:16 inch twist barrels, though they often do quite well out to 25. I’ve often wondered how these heavier bullets would do with a 1:9 inch twist, but I haven’t been willing to sink the money into a barrel to find out.
I think there is a place for the Quiet 710 FPS rounds for small pests up to the size of squirrels, again, assuming adequate accuracy in your weapon at the range needed.
Accuracy of the Quiets in my 22/45 has definitely been a deal breaker issue.
As for the heavier bullets' accuracy, I've only tried one sample in a 10.5" Charger barrel (Winchester Suppressor 42 grain HP). It was good enough to clink the 1.5" mini-swingers @60 yards w/o trying too hard. I've found the more typical 40 grain subsonics to actually be more accurate @ 100 yards when fired from a 4" 22/45 since there's no 'super to sub' transition. Takes some fairly creative 'fabri-cobbling' of equipment to tell the diff. :rolleyes:
As for the heavier bullets' accuracy, I've only tried one sample in a 10.5" Charger barrel (Winchester Suppressor 42 grain HP). It was good enough to clink the 1.5" mini-swingers @60 yards w/o trying too hard. I've found the more typical 40 grain subsonics to actually be more accurate @ 100 yards when fired from a 4" 22/45 since there's no 'super to sub' transition. Takes some fairly creative 'fabri-cobbling' of equipment to tell the diff. :rolleyes:
The Happy Kaboomer
Single-Sixer
From what I read multiple places..........It's NOT accurate either.
:unsure: Function and accuracy are fine in my 10.5" AR22 and 10" Charger. .;) Haven't tried in pistol as mine don't have problems with common sub-sonic 40 grain
Alro
Bearcat
Very interesting conversation. I shoot a Ruger 22 charger with 10’ barrel suppressed with silencer co sparrow. All I hear is the bolt. Very quiet and amazing to shoot. I had a firefly bolt installed to cycle subsonics but it just started acting up.
You weren’t alone. Volquartsen‘s first generation Firefly 1.0 subsonic bolt had a couple of issues, and became prone to malfunctions at higher round counts for some users. The bolt handle was also mounted directly into the right side of the bolt and tended to loosen over time, flopping around and even falling out for some.
Their Firefly 2.0 bolt was redesigned to correct the wear issues & switched to a bolt handle/recoil spring assembly similar to the factory design.
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Hertervillian
Saluki
Get a bolt action. The auto is letting sound out the breach. I’ve got a 16” Tikka that is stupid quiet with subs, spring piston .22 air gun quiet.
Alro
Bearcat
I actually had the 2.0… it’s sold.
Except for this CCI Quiet SemiAuto 835fps version:
https://www.cci-ammunition.com/rimfire/cci/quiet-22-semi-auto/6-975CC.html
I understand why they use “Quiet” for both the 710fps & heavy 835 fps versions, but it still gets confusing for many.
This is quiet, accurate and reliable in my suppressed 10/22. To my ears it is quieter than standard velocity 22.
