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caryc

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Another gun mistake on TV. On an old episode of “Cheyenne”. Cheyenne was up against a guy with a revolver and Cheyenne had a double 12 gauge with exposed hammers on it. He finally got close enough to the guy that was hiding behind a barrel. The BG takes another shot at him and Cheyenne let’s one of the barrels fly and says “Drop it”…..”I Said Drop It”.

In between the “drop it” and “I said drop it”, they inserted the obligatory scary gun sound. But the sound they edited in was the sound of someone racking the slide on a pump shotgun or working the lever action on a Winchester.

I couldn’t believe it so I had to hit the replay button three times to make sure I was hearing it right. The camera shot was far enough away that you couldn’t really see the supposed movement by Cheyenne. How can they be so stupid?
 
I read a lot.

Gun mistakes are so common in books, I've finally quit being p.o.'d about such mistakes a gun person would know better...well almost anyway...

Things like 'he moved the safety to the off position on his revolver' or his 'Glock'...calling magazines 'clips' or 'bullets' when they mean cartridges and on and on and on...

If you're going to write about guns, why not know the nomenclature accurately...?

Am I being semantic?

Yes, but I'm also correct....a-holes who write about guns and related gun matters should know wtf they're talking about.
 
Uh......it's television.
If you are looking for intelligence, accuracy and facts boy have I got a news flash for you.
This is like being surprised when you find out Mr. Ed couldn't really talk.
TV is kind of a 'garbage in garbage out' kind of thing.
It is not even an entertainment medium. It is designed for revenue making and political influence.
 
I watched Hitchcocks "The 39 Steps" circa 1935 last night. Bad guy points a gun at the good guy and offers to hand him , "this revolver" so that he might commit suicide. The "revolver" was obviously a semiauto, most likely a Mauser in .25 or .32 ACP. Interesting story, hokey overdone acting but still fun to watch.

If I had a dollar for every gun/shooting mistake I've caught in books of movies, I gould buy a very nice expensive rifle, say a prewar Mauser B or M. I passes on a mauser M in 7x57 a few years back. Guy wanted $1,400 and wouldn't budge. Still kicking myself for not buying that rifle. :cry:
Paul B.
 
Unfortunately, very few talking heads/actors ever went to USMC boot camp. Getting the nomenclature wrong on any firearm meant sleeping with it completely disassembled and laid out on your bunk in the proper order - if you're lucky. Other instruction was also available. :wink:
 
Pointing an auto at someone with the slide locked open...have seen this twice. :roll:

...sad about Mr Ed...
 
Movies and TV shows were made for entertainment. I see many things that are not correct but do I care? No. Most viewers do not notice.
 
bvd1 said:
Movies and TV shows were made for entertainment. I see many things that are not correct but do I care? No. Most viewers do not notice.

I don't really care either but it's fun catching those mistakes. Oh and gasbag, thanks for pointing out that it's television and not real. I didn't know that. I can always count on one of those on these TV mistake posts. :roll:
 
Medical shows, Police shows, CSI and SWAT shows, yeah they're all so realistic. :D

Good thing you aren't a doctor Cary. :D
 
Any show or movie with any sort of technical info is subject to getting it wrong.

Heck back when Emergency was on we'd sit around the firehouse and just laugh ourselves silly. What's really sad is that two of the actors were actually full time firemen. I guess the paycheck overruled any desire to make it right.
 
Jeepnik said:
Any show or movie with any sort of technical info is subject to getting it wrong.

Heck back when Emergency was on we'd sit around the firehouse and just laugh ourselves silly. What's really sad is that two of the actors were actually full time firemen. I guess the paycheck overruled any desire to make it right.

Kevin Tigh and Randolf Mantooth were never real firefighters. However, there were a couple real firefighters in the support cast. I forget which ones they were now.
 
bogus bill said:
Hey we are talking about my all time top favorite actor here, Clint Walker!

I forgot what a big guy he was until they started playing the show again.

He stood 6 feet, 6 inches tall with a 48-inch chest and a 32-inch waist.
 
caryc said:
Jeepnik said:
Any show or movie with any sort of technical info is subject to getting it wrong.

Heck back when Emergency was on we'd sit around the firehouse and just laugh ourselves silly. What's really sad is that two of the actors were actually full time firemen. I guess the paycheck overruled any desire to make it right.

Kevin Tigh and Randolf Mantooth were never real firefighters. However, there were a couple real firefighters in the support cast. I forget which ones they were now.

The engineer (probably hired him cuz he could drive the truck) and the one with the mustache. Don't know if they were L.A. County or some other FD.
 
Our British cousins use "revolver" as a synonym for "handgun."
It's Hollyweird. Jim Bowie (Richard Widmark)-Nock Volley Gun. "Luke McCain" and his "10 shot" Winchester M-1892-in the 1870s. In "Gunga Din" with Cary Grant and Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. the British soldiers carry Krags.
 
I really get a kick of watching the good guy creeping around looking for the bad guy with his semi-auto something pointing out in front of him, sweeping the room and making that quick corner transition, then when he sees the bad guy or hears something he reaches out and racks the slide, and sometimes an empty case pops out!
 
jimbo1096 said:
I really get a kick of watching the good guy creeping around looking for the bad guy with his semi-auto something pointing out in front of him, sweeping the room and making that quick corner transition, then when he sees the bad guy or hears something he reaches out and racks the slide, and sometimes an empty case pops out!

Yeah, so most of the time those idiots are walking around in some dark house where they know a bad guy is hidden and they have no round in the chamber. Real smart.
 
bogus bill said:
Hey we are talking about my all time top favorite actor here, Clint Walker!
You and my wife. She loves his voice and don’t get her started about his chest when he’s in shirtless scenes chopping wood or such. :wink:
 
blackhawknj said:
Our British cousins use "revolver" as a synonym for "handgun."
It's Hollyweird. Jim Bowie (Richard Widmark)-Nock Volley Gun. "Luke McCain" and his "10 shot" Winchester M-1892-in the 1870s. In "Gunga Din" with Cary Grant and Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. the British soldiers carry Krags.

In some old horror flick with Vincent Price he was showing the gun that was used to kill someone. He held out his hand and said "This tiny revolver....". It looked exactly like a .25 semi auto to me.
 
coach said:
bogus bill said:
Hey we are talking about my all time top favorite actor here, Clint Walker!
You and my wife. She loves his voice and don’t get her started about his chest when he’s in shirtless scenes chopping wood or such. :wink:

I'm surprised the guy didn't have to walk through doorways sideways. :shock:
 
I don't get upset at very much, but I just want to understand where that 20-something size 1.5 FBI agent was hiding her Glock & extra mags, in that skin-tight white satin pantsuit.

Wait, Mr. Ed didn't really talk? What the...?
 
caryc said:
bogus bill said:
Hey we are talking about my all time top favorite actor here, Clint Walker!

I forgot what a big guy he was until they started playing the show again.

He stood 6 feet, 6 inches tall with a 48-inch chest and a 32-inch waist.

That's the same way I look, in my head. In the mirror? Not so much.
 
We are a critical bunch as we are mostly gun knowledgeable. Hollywood is mostly not. What does bug me is when "gun people" refer to a detachable magazine as a "clip" and call a 308 Win etc. a "caliber" rather than a cartridge.
 
If you're looking for intelligence in a TV show, you must be the same guy who orders pizza in a bookstore. Mamma mia!
 
I don't know if they still insist in basic when you are referring to your rifle it has to be referred to as your piece, your weapon, your rifle, but never ever could you refer to it as a 'gun'.

So in basic, I innocently asked why did we call the M-60 a machine 'gun'.

Why not a machine rifle or piece or weapon?

My Drill Sergeant (who by the way I liked and respected) just glared at me, shook his head and told me to drop and give him twenty pushups for my presumed insolence...

I quit asking questions....

Another weird thing: I liked the food in the Army, but that may be because I was brought up my Father, no Mother around and his cooking was at best...meager in taste and quality.
 
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