Ruger rifle barrels & accuracy

[TenToes]

I have heard some pretty unflattering comments on barrel accuracy. I am looking for straight scoop on the stainless Model 77 MK ll made in 2004...a 790 serial prefix. Some barrels were made outside Ruger....some inside. Talking here of a MKII in 7mm WSM. A new, never fired rifle. I can deal with the trigger, but not 4 to 5 moa accuracy.
Comments appreciated.

 

[Tellico]

May do better in the Ruger rifles section??

 

[TenToes]

You are right. I will figure out how to move it.
Thnx!

 

[mohavesam]

I have heard some pretty unflattering comments on barrel accuracy. I am looking for straight scoop on the stainless Model 77 MK ll made in 2004...a 790 serial prefix. Some barrels were made outside Ruger....some inside. Talking here of a MKII in 7mm WSM. A new, never fired rifle. I can deal with the trigger, but not 4 to 5 moa accuracy.
Comments appreciated.

Hmmm... "4 to 5 moa accuracy" is essentially no more than 2" from point of aim at 100 yards. Do you mean 4-5" groups?
In my experience most complaints (or complainers) tend to have rifles that outshoot their capabilities. Unless you are shooting a Savage an out-of-the-box bolt rifle in a mild-recoiling caliber, with a decent trigger printing better than 3" groups is hard to find. Still most Ruger 77 MkIIs will shoot better than most once-a-month shooters.
If a rifle shoots no better than 4-5 inches with the BEST ammo out of say, 5-6 name brands of factory ammo, then something just might be amiss. Maybe. Then again I've met/seen plenty of shooters who claim to be able to shoot a 7mmRemMag or 7mmWSM, but then have obvious flinching or call it a day after a few shots an hour (usually accompanied by rubbing the shoulder!).

Aggravating accuracy some issues crop up more than others:
only shooting one brand/bullet and judging the rifle...
shooting a bargain scope that itself was not properly mounted...
shooting with lousy makeshift rests...
shooting with cheapo ammo...
shooting without careful cleaning and/or mechanical checkout... etc.

 

[protoolman]

I have heard the barrels story of Ruger made and outsourced barrels in the older M77's not the MKII ones. In my experience with the newer MKII's its the odd one that won't shoot 1 MOA with a good handload. My 30-06 will shoot 100 yd groups with all the bullet holes touching with most factory ammo and my reloads. Needless to say I will never give it up! I don't place much stock in stories anyway. You need to shoot your rifle and see for yourself. I suspect you will be pleasantly surprised!

 

[picketpin]

Ruger barrels:
1967 -1972 out sourced - Douglas match grade

1973 - 1991 out sourced to Wilson (Some, mostly very early had throat issues and were throated too long in older cartridges like the 7x57)

1992- present in house, hammer forged and uniformly good.

While I don't play with 77s much any more I killed a LOT of deer, elk and antelope from the late 60s to the early 80s and the few "New" ones I have work/shoot just fine.

RWT

 

[Leucoandro]

I have found what almost uniformly leads to poor accuracy in standard (non-mannlicher stock, or feather weight barrel) M77’s, is when someone takes the action/barrel out of the stock, and then puts it back in incorrectly. Even gunsmiths can make the mistake. I took a M77 MK II that shot .6” groups at 100 yards, to a gunsmith for a trigger job. It came back shooting 3.5” groups. With a little time I figured out that the gunsmith didn’t put the rifle back into the stock correctly.


Charlie

 

[43north]

Charlie, very good point to make. I made a significant business from correcting Remington's mistakes in the late '80s/early '90s.
The .30-06 700BDL came with a mis-machined stock, and shot dinner plate sized groups.
The ADL didn't share the same fate. Always good to know your friends with less cash, shoot groups 6 inches smaller in diameter than you do.
A several boxes of Acraglass® later, and all shot sub MOA @ 100 yds, with Federal Classic 150 gr ammo.
The Remington 180gr Core-Lok sold with the gun, and the oily wet scope base screws proved that Walmart® wasn't your best choice for purchasing a deer rifle.

 

[soyarm]

"It shoots the same hole every time at 100 yds."


Sorry.......no it doesn't

 

[hammie]

@picketpin (RS): Thanks for the posting the various ruger barrel manufacturing dates. I've never seen that before. Your information is copied and added to my notebook of important gun facts.

 

[ArmedinAZ]

"It shoots the same hole every time at 100 yds."


Sorry.......no it doesn't

Sure it does. That hole is the same as that other hole, and it's just the same as the next hole... :wink:

I'd dearly love to see some 100yd/5shot targets from that rifle with all shots in 1 hole!