Ruger American Rifle concept single shot?

[t-reg]

What if Ruger applied todays materials and manufacturing to single shots?

Maybe pick up where H&R left off but with user interchangeable barrels.

Or maybe a RAR No.1.
Classier, yes, but not cartridge interchangeable.

I got an itch for a centerfire one hitter...

 

[thinckley]

What if Ruger applied todays materials and manufacturing to single shots?

Maybe pick up where H&R left off but with user interchangeable barrels.

Or maybe a RAR No.1.
Classier, yes, but not cartridge interchangeable.

I got an itch for a centerfire one hitter...

Are you just looking for a lower price point on the Ruger No 1?

Both are 30-06.

 

[Ditmo64]

I bought a Henry in 30-30. The wood on it is exceptional. Put a skinner aperture sight on it. Not a No.1 but a fun cast bullet plinker
My No. 1s are in 7.62x39 and 44mag. I also have a No. 3 in 45-70

The old H&R/NEF single shots were a bargain. It would be nice if somebody came out with them or something similar again.

 

[GYJ44]

I could be into it but it'd have to be lighter than the #1. No way should the same action be used for the .458Lott and .22Hornet.

 

[the_leper_colony]

Rossi offered a model a few years back, that was designed as a convertible, with factory rifle barrels in multiple calibers that could be purchased from Rossi (like the TC Contender). IIRC there were interchangable shotgun barrels available, as well. Apparently they didn't sell well enough, because I don't think they're available new anymore:

https://gundigest.com/gun-reviews/gun-review-the-rossi-wizard

The current CVA Scout single-shot rifles & handguns seem to have a good reputation, but I don't think they're designed to be multibarrel/multicaliber firearms. And it seems like they're manufactured or imported in batches, with not every chambering available when you might want one (and they're not dirt cheap)...
:)

 

[Mobuck]

I dunno, when you can buy a really accurate relatively inexpensive bolt action, I don't see an advantage of a single shot. Just the fact that the repeater has 'on board' ammo storage is worthwhile. :unsure:

 

[Peeper1K]

What if Ruger applied todays materials and manufacturing to single shots?

Maybe pick up where H&R left off but with user interchangeable barrels.

Or maybe a RAR No.1.
Classier, yes, but not cartridge interchangeable.

I got an itch for a centerfire one hitter...

Yeah, t-reg, I can relate. (some eye candy for you, the addicted). Most younger gents don't, lol. For a run of 15 years I competed in Metallic Silhouette 300 yard standing rifle. I still bang steel, but no competing. I'm still a rabid shotgunner trap/field . .all break-opens . Hey, It's a mano-e-mano visceral meditative routine to go thru the "break it, load it, close it, aim it, bang it" . . , I have every kind of rifle, (many guys do), waaaaay too many to be considered sane. For the addicted 'steel bangers' out there, nothing compares to a single-shot break-open for getting zoned for a standing shot, a 300 yard tip-over 18" banger. . Sixty seconds to get it off. Bolts just don't do it, an auto not allowed) doesn't have the hit for a 40 lb knock-down slab.. (308 not allowed). It's the shot routine, I suppose. 60 shots, so a process routine appeases the brain, I think. You can't fake it when you're standing, no scope, and EVERYBODY can see your shot.

No scopes, so it's somewhat appealing to the primal "I use an ax" kind of guy.
I've got the HR's, TC in various barrels. 45-70, 30-30, 7-TCU, 7 Waters, 223, 44, 357, and a 10" 223 with a red dot.
The 223 is a for a tiny little 5" plate at 250 yards. Very very entertaining.

 

[Peeper1K]

If Ruger got into the break-open change-bbl at a basement price like the TC was originally, it would open up a world of calibers for many. "Spraying lead all over, fast" has its place, but for some long range entertainment and getting to understand that "Quigley Down Under" moment with a Sharps, it's a plus. I'd buy a Ruger breaker , hands down. IMHO, Ruger has transformed 'Marlin'. . .and I have a lot of JM Marlins. Remlins kinda bite, too often.

 

[Mobuck]

I think there's confusion in the ranks on this subject. A 'break action/break open' is NOT a falling block and most likely would never be as accurate. Also consider that the Sharps was the primo king of the heap quality rather than a 'price point' beater.
I've had a couple of break action rifles. Just OK but not inspiring. I recently sold the .223 to a relative who wanted something really cheap to ride in his UTV. It was a 200 yard coyote rifle at best and the elastic sleeve that held ammo on the stock kept dropping shells on the floor. Another break action was/is so persnickety about ammo that it's relegated to the 'why did I buy this' section of the rifle rack. :oops: :rolleyes:

 

[needsmostuff]

Well, any rifle with a swinging, arcing hammer is never going to be as "easy" to shoot well as any rifle with a striker type firing pin with faster lock time.
Simple fact.
But like Peeper1k I still fall for their charm.
I have hoarded H&R guns for a while, when I can find them. But really not much in the way of the Hunting Calibers. No 30-06,308,243 (but I do have 30-30) that many are looking for.
I seek the pistol calibers cuz they are so much shorter-range fun. For me, this is where they shine.
My pile from the top, 357MAX,444Marlin, 30-30, 30-30, 45 Colt, 44mag, and a barrel lined 327.

But as they are mostly gone now it seems Henry is now the go-to for a classy gun.
But Rossi is making a nice affordable challenge at right at $300 out the door.
This one is 357 so mostly a 100 yard or less fun gun.

 

[Mobuck]

I own a Rossi 7.62x39 that I really wish someone else had. :oops:

 

[Hawk-in-Wi]

I like single shot firearms , have a bunch of T/C both Contenders and Encores , Rifle and pistol cal. also have CVA I think I'm up to maybe 8 CVA now , 2 -300 blackout , 3 - 350 legend , 2 - 243 and 2 - 50 cals , one of which is their 14" pistol, 2 of the grandkids are going to use the 300 bo, one of them has a reddot on it the other has a 1 1/2 x 6 both rifles will shoot at least one load at 1" at 100 yards off the bench most loads are in that 1 1/2 size plenty good enough for deer at or under 200 yards

 

[Peeper1K]

MoBuck, Well, your point on accuracy is so very true. .. BUT, we are in a very entertaining time of hobbies. It's pretty diverse, to say the least. I shoot (and have shot) Palma, Service Rifle, Service Caliber, IMSHA, . . . nationally and international competitions. Won some , lost waaaay beyond countless, but always enjoyed them. Having a good time is what it's all about. It's an unending quest for more accuracy, we love accuracy. But some shoots are more than what guns are more accurate. It's about what can YOU do, in that particular platform. Years ago now, when I won my service caliber category, a sanctioned national shoot, I won because I can dope wind very very well. At 600 to 1000 yards I'm pretty decent. No, change that, I'm VERY good. LOL. The gent laying down prone next to be, a buddy of mine named Gary C, sets a world record in his category. He's a bench rest fanatic. He has Berger bullets on speed dial. Same with a barrel maker.

Point is, it's what jollies we can get out of shooting, what floats our boat. I own a (Pedersoli) Sharps in 45-70. I had two, sold one of them. IMHO, THE most accurate 45-70 out there. I'm a fanatical lead bullet caster, I've got dozen custom molds, cheap & simple to get. Sharps was fun. No, not a sub MOA gun. (40 lbs of recoil, btw. BRUTAL when prone.) Fun for its smile factor. I was Quigley, Down Under, ( altho he shot a 45-110, not a 45-70). But hey ..

I'm in t-reg's boat for the entertainment aspect of it. I like 'playing with my guns' in a non-pervo way. My wife hasn't had me put away for questionable stuff, so I'm pretty sure I'm safe for a while longer. I reload all my calibers , haven't bought Factory bullets of any rifle in 45 years. (except 22LR) + Handguns : only my carry 40 S&W's.. and 22LR's. The 44's, 357's are reloaded, using casts. I love break-opens and wheel guns when I go out to play. IMHO, just MORE mechanical stuff to fondle & play with.. Oh, wait, I love my two K98 Mauser sporters I made. A total big-time fun gun to shoot in "service rife receiver" and caliber (7.62 NATO) category shoots. (Mine are now 308's , using the unaltered bolt requirement). "Fun" being the point here. All are for metallic steel banging at up to 500 meters. No scopes. That's just more man-toy fun for the damned.

 

[thinckley]

I still don't understand what exactly the OP was looking for....

 

[GYJ44]

Personally don't think it's fair to compare the accuracy of a $200 break action to a $1500 falling block. The TC Contenders and Encores have no problem holding sub-MOA.

 

[t-reg]

I still don't understand what exactly the OP was looking for....

Was just mind browsing on the singleshots and threw it out here.

Mainly on the topic of a No.1 American and if Ruger could produce it, accurate and reliable at an affordable price point, would it sell.

Affordable price point = farmstores and LGS put them on the rack in a couple popular calibers similar to the bolt action RA.

 

[thinckley]

Was just mind browsing on the singleshots and threw it out here.

Mainly on the topic of a No.1 American and if Ruger could produce it, accurate and reliable at an affordable price point, would it sell.

Affordable price point = farmstores and LGS put them on the rack in a couple popular calibers similar to the bolt action RA.

Still don't understand what you mean by a No. 1 American. A plastic No. 1?

 

[t-reg]

Still don't understand what you mean by a No. 1 American. A plastic No. 1?

Basicly, yes.
One made with modern materials, with modern methods on modern machinery, with maybe some design tweaks to improve manufacturing.

Similar to the Wrangler being a "modernized" Single Six.

Look at the accuracy and utility they came up with in the American rifle series and apply it to the No. 1.

 

[thinckley]

Basicly, yes.
One made with modern materials, with modern methods on modern machinery, with maybe some design tweaks to improve manufacturing.

Similar to the Wrangler being a "modernized" Single Six.

Look at the accuracy and utility they came up with in the American rifle series and apply it to the No. 1.

Sorry, can't get on board that train.

Laminate and stainless are about as modern as I would want to see on a No. 1, and both are plenty accurate. The stainless one will probably be going on a cow elk hunt in two weeks.

 

[t-reg]

Sorry, can't get on board that train.

Laminate and stainless are about as modern as I would want to see on a No. 1, and both are plenty accurate. The stainless one will probably be going on a cow elk hunt in two weeks.

The beauty and purpose of SS and laminated wood can't be denied.
But how often do you see it on a store rack vs cerakote and plastic?

 

[Hawk-in-Wi]

I can see where you're coming from , in stead of spending $350- 400 on a CVA or Rossi
spend 500 to 600 on a Ruger #1 American , wood doesn't do anything other than look pretty and most the time the pretty guns stay in the safe because you don't want to ding them

 

[Don Lovel]

#1 action cerracoat finish and synthetic stock. Offer different barrel length options
I would like one with 20" 6.5 Grendel chamber or 16 or 18" in 454 Casull.

 

[GYJ44]

I don't know about anybody else but I hunt with my wood stocked guns. Otherwise, why own them?

I could get behind a more budget friendly "American" version of the #1 and much more easily than stainless/laminate.

The Wrangler is not a modernized Single Six. It's a cheapenized Single Six. Which is fine, I have six of them.

 

[thinckley]

But how often do you see it on a store rack vs cerakote and plastic?

You say that like it is a good thing :p ;)

 

[rcs9250]

With the current trend of removable box magazines on hunting rifles I don’t se a single shot making a lot of sales. But who knows?
Can’t understand why a hunter needs a 20 or 30 round magazine on his rifle. Maybe the guys who go to one of those prairie dog shoots, but for deer and other four legged game, what the heck.

I remember the days when a Remington 700 with integral magazine with a floor plate you could open to spill out unfired rounds. That was a mans hunting rifle.

 

[rcs9250]

I can see where you're coming from , in stead of spending $350- 400 on a CVA or Rossi
spend 500 to 600 on a Ruger #1 American , wood doesn't do anything other than look pretty and most the time the pretty guns stay in the safe because you don't want to ding them

I agree. I know one school says “it’s a tool” use it. I never hold on to anything very long because something new comes out and I sell what I have and put that money towards the new gun. I like the utility of modern plastics, it takes a lickin’ and keeps on tickin’.

 

[GYJ44]

With the current trend of removable box magazines on hunting rifles I don’t se a single shot making a lot of sales. But who knows?
Can’t understand why a hunter needs a 20 or 30 round magazine on his rifle. Maybe the guys who go to one of those prairie dog shoots, but for deer and other four legged game, what the heck.

I remember the days when a Remington 700 with integral magazine with a floor plate you could open to spill out unfired rounds. That was a mans hunting rifle.

You may, you may not but at least with STANAG magazine compatibility, you have the option.

There have been a good number of single shots hitting the market the last few years. TC is back online with the Encore and Contender. CVA has theirs. Rossi has a new one that's interesting. The single shot is not dead.

 

[Hawk-in-Wi]

CVA has theirs

Like I said up above I have several CVA and a lot of T/C's , they're just fun to shoot and they get the job done , the 2 CVA that I've been working with this fall are both Stainless, Compact , takedowns in 300 Blackout , I put a reddot on one and have a 1.5 x 6 on the other , both shoot several brands of ammo to about the same point of aim and most groups are 1 1/2" or smaller more than good enough for the Grand kids to take hunting

 

[Peeper1K]

There a lot of gents I meet at ranges that get their lights turned on about (specifically) the TC, since that's what I was standing & popping off for 300 meter steel. "I'm kinda cheating, It's the rifle style & fit.".. I often get "No frikken way". . . .up until I let them pop a few off.
Then it's "WTH ?" after they knock a ram down after a bit of advice. Typically they're peep sight virgins too. Having a custom MGM barrel for my TC's is only a part of it, many TC 's came ready to go. I've got a desired twist rate, etc , etc. I shoot mostly heavy cast slugs to deal with heavy targets, and often have greater OAL" that won't fit in many repeater bolt guns. I want more powder room, bullet seated way out, so a single shot rules the day.
My peep sight set up gets it all very very close to my eye. . .the TC makes it so easy. See early pic.

My HR's are my desired arm for my 45-70's. More so than the TC's. Got multi bbl 's for them, but that was a "All factory fitted multi BBL order" for the head spacing. The TC's are all a generic free' for all.
OP t-reg is my hero for braving the shark infested waters of the modern era's popular arms. LOL. . it's an AR platform world now .. . and, well, if we want to nit-pick some: the AR is a Break Open rifle too. Just nicely done. During my early service rifle comp shoots we had to really snug that sling up front to prevent vertical stringing at 500 meters. "It's got a pivot point", don't ya know. LOL. No bipod. No rest. Use your knee. Or elbow on grass. A lost art to most younger gents.