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Bearcat
Does anyone have a clue as to how many Liberty No 1's were made in 45/70 ?
No 1 45/70
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gewehrfreund
Buckeye
Only Ruger and they're not telling.
Ruger1nut
Blackhawk
Most would say 12-20 tops for the Un-cataloged 1H. I have no idea on the 1S 45-70 but it is not one of the more common ones.
I see them as often as I see the 1V in 7mag and 300 Win and that is not that often
Good luck in your search if you are looking for one
Dave
I see them as often as I see the 1V in 7mag and 300 Win and that is not that often
Good luck in your search if you are looking for one
Dave
picketpin
Buckeye
Dave: are you talking 1976 "Libertys"? The first number you gave is the number of non prefix 45-70s in "H" profile. The 1976 45-70 were standard "S" rifles.
Uncommon but I wouldn't think rare. The Claytom book says the "Liberty" "S" 45-70 is worth "5" points, in ther words, uncommon.
While I don't specifically look for Libertys and seldom if ever look at 45-70s I suspect there are more than there are 7nn Mag or 300 Win Mags in the "V" configuration based on my observations. Of course mine's just a guess/gut fealing given Ruger will never tell.
Ross
Uncommon but I wouldn't think rare. The Claytom book says the "Liberty" "S" 45-70 is worth "5" points, in ther words, uncommon.
While I don't specifically look for Libertys and seldom if ever look at 45-70s I suspect there are more than there are 7nn Mag or 300 Win Mags in the "V" configuration based on my observations. Of course mine's just a guess/gut fealing given Ruger will never tell.
Ross
Heavy Barrel
Single-Sixer
Ross,I have a unfired Liberty 45/70,looked a loooong time before I found one.During that period I ran across two 300V's, one I passed on the other I have.Wood was the deciding factor.
As for Clayton's book,that was printed in 1983,I'm sure things have changed as it seems everything is getting harder to find.Seems a lot of the older guns are in hands of people who have them for what they are,not for what they are worth as far as collectability.I have a friend that has a pre-prefix 222 that he bought new,will never let it go and it looks as if it were used as a club.He is a farmer so you can go figure. :roll:
Bill
As for Clayton's book,that was printed in 1983,I'm sure things have changed as it seems everything is getting harder to find.Seems a lot of the older guns are in hands of people who have them for what they are,not for what they are worth as far as collectability.I have a friend that has a pre-prefix 222 that he bought new,will never let it go and it looks as if it were used as a club.He is a farmer so you can go figure. :roll:
Bill
picketpin
Buckeye
It's true that many most may have disapeared into peopleps "collections" whether shooters or strictly collectors. Still doesn't alter the total number produced . If off the market right now, they will show up again either based on price/value or like many many of the early and non prefix #1s, as the owners age out of the "Game". Ifg they don't sell off, most fmilies do after the owner dies or is in the rest home. ;-(
Guys that were in their 30s when they bought their non prefix in say 1970 are now 70+ and begining to sell off/dispurse their guns.
I am not there yet but in another ten to 15 years the vast majority of what I own will be on the open market.
Ross
Guys that were in their 30s when they bought their non prefix in say 1970 are now 70+ and begining to sell off/dispurse their guns.
I am not there yet but in another ten to 15 years the vast majority of what I own will be on the open market.
Ross
Sorry... Dave is correct. There are 12 to as many as 20, prefixed SN, 24" barreled #1H 45-70 rifles. A rare gun. 8)
Heavy Barrel
Single-Sixer
Splitz,
The OP's question was how many "Liberty" 45/70's.We are discussing two different rifles,a 1S Liberty 45/70 and a 1H .
The OP's question was how many "Liberty" 45/70's.We are discussing two different rifles,a 1S Liberty 45/70 and a 1H .
Heavy Barrel said:
Well, the original question did not call out the 22" S vs. the 24" H. It only asked about the 200th year......The H model occurred in the 200th year, only.
Ruger1nut
Blackhawk
Right, Liberty rifles in 45-70 were available in 1976 as a cataloged 1S (B weight bbl) with 22"bbl and sites.
They were also available as an un-cataloged run of 12-20 1H (D weight bbl) 24"bbl with sites.
Both are rare in my book with the 1H model being exceptionally rare.
good luck with the search
Dave
They were also available as an un-cataloged run of 12-20 1H (D weight bbl) 24"bbl with sites.
Both are rare in my book with the 1H model being exceptionally rare.
good luck with the search
Dave
Seems that someone here has one #1H 45-70 that originally belonged to Col. Len Frieze, first Prez of the RCA. Hope it is in good hands......... 8)
four70nitro
Single-Sixer
The sad thing is I remember having a 1-H 45-70 in my hands at a gun show and thinking "who would want a .45-70 that was that heavy and cost that much more than a regular 1-S gun?" But then that was many, many years before I knew how rare they were, and not all that much money by today's standards........
Dave
Dave
